Open letter to Christians

[Nihilist Virus]

#1
The canon of God.

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#2
Has been addressed and accepted by comparing the genealogical lists in 1 Chronicles 2:1-2 and Genesis 35:22-25, and the chronology in Genesis 29:31-30:24/35:16-19.

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#3
The list in 1 Chronicles is one of heredity.

For the sake of those following the argument I find it necessary to reiterate that while I'm happy to answer question three it has no logical relevance to the initial claim.  It is irrefutable that the list in 1 Chronicles 3:15 is one of heredity.  The list is of the sons of Josiah.  Does this prove that the list is or is not in chronological order?  No, because these two claims are not mutually exclusive.  It could be that the list is both one of heredity and in chronological order.  See post #48 for further clarification.

#1
The canon of God.

You follow up your applaudable exegesis with this.  Like you stuck the landing and then tripped during your walk off the mat.

See, if you define the Bible as the canon of God, you are not eliminating the Koran, the book of Mormon, and etc.  Perhaps you also hold these dear, and your gymnastics in their defense are equally or even more bizarre. But I don't think you intended for those things to be in your canon.  Even if you want to say that Allah is not Jehovah, I don't see how you exclude Joseph Smith's contributions.

Furthermore, there are no instructions in the Bible on how to canonize the Bible. This makes it a canonization of men.  But even if I am to be very charitable, and I just wink wink and say that I know what you are trying to say, you still lose the argument.  In no way have you shown (or even attempted to show) that the ISV is a rejected version of the Bible.  Recall that it portrays 1 Chronicles 3:15 as,

Josiah’s descendants included Johanan his firstborn, his second born Jehoiakim, his third born Zedekiah, and his fourth born Shallum.

Regardless of the fact that Jews did not always list sons in order, it is plain that the ISV affirms that 1 Chronicles 3:15 does give a chronological order.  You cannot lawyer your way through this one.  The best you can offer is that the ISV has a transcriber error here, which will shift the focus to transcriber errors - provided,  of course, that you can define the Bible for us.


#3
The list in 1 Chronicles is one of heredity.

By saying this you are conceding the entire debate because I asked for an explanation of the ordering of the sons. At best this answer is simply irrelevant and nonsensical.

The list takes the effort to give the sons an ordering.  You deny that it is a chronological ordering despite making no attempt whatsoever to debunk the ISV or even define what is or isn't a Bible.  Your claim that it is an order of importance was debunked as it used a false premise, was vacuous in terms of evidence, and was nonsensical because it lists two vassal kings as more "important" than a legitimate successor to the throne because the vassal kings ruled longer... but OF COURSE they ruled longer - they were bowing down touching the head to the ground before emperors and surrendering goods as tribute.  To say that such kings are revered more than Shallum - even if he actually was a usurper - is going to require evidence.  Also note that Jehoiakim was cursed by God (Jeremiah 22:18-19), yet according to you he is listed first among his brothers in terms of importance.