(March 29, 2016 at 3:11 pm)athrock Wrote: First, since the percentage of homosexual priests who have committed these aggressive crimes against young men is LOWER than the percentage of teachers, coaches and Protestant ministers who have done the same things, it's not actually a uniquely CATHOLIC problem.
This is an extremely disgusting thing to say and I expect you to apologize to the group of people you offended.
By that I mean that the standard of decency that I hold normal people would compel you to apologize, but I have no illusions that you will do so because you are so arrogant and you do not believe you can ever be wrong.
Because you see, I am very much into women and yet I have no desire to violate an 8 year old girl. Yet you imply that it is the homosexual priests that are raping these boys, as if homosexuality and pedophilia are linked. The reality is that they are just as linked as heterosexuality is linked to "heterosexual" pedophilia. You are a bigot. You seem to be unaware that many young girls were molested by priests also, and even if that wasn't the case, there is no reasonable connection between the sexual appreciation of a masculine, mature male body and the sexual appreciation of a pre-pubescent little boy. You are sick.
Lastly you say coaches and teachers engage in this more often than priests? SOURCE????
Quote:Second, if a priest commits these sins, how does this change the truth of the doctrines of the Catholic Church? Or the fact that the Catholic Church is the only church founded by Jesus Christ personally? The only Church still led by the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome?
Because the popes were apparently appointed by God himself and they were all aware of the abominable worldwide coverup. In fact it is statistically unfeasible to suggest that there has never been a pope that was a child rapist as a priest.
Quote:You can ask Him that question, if you like, but my response would be to ask you: Is God not free to solve the problem WE created as HE sees fit? We are the recipients of this merciful gift of redemption. He paid the price...do we really need to second-guess the means by which He did so?
An utter lie. Jesus prayed that God would take the cup of suffering from him. Jesus begged and said if there was any other way that he would prefer that. Since there was no other way, it follows that God is subject to the law. Yet as you saw with the story of how he contradicted his own Torah to torture and killed David's son for his own amusement, we also conclude that God is above the law.
If you believe in something that not only lacks empirical evidence but also is not even internally consistent, then you are utterly irrational.
Quote:Jesus chose to die for us willingly:
Well... yes and no.
Quote:John 10
17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.
Yes he did so willingly but only because there was no other way.
Quote:Quote:So then missionary work is pointless at best...?
If knowing the truth is pointless, I suppose.
It sure is in the case of missionary work. It's sort of like a bank robber wearing a mask. Wouldn't you prefer that he wears a mask, so there's a chance he lets you go? Or do you prefer to "know the truth" and die?
You have shown that you are a bigot and that you give half-assed answers which do not stand up to even casual scrutiny. I expected a whole lot more from a guy taking it to atheists at their own forums. I'll be sure to amend my expectations appropriately. If you can put together one damn sentence that makes a lick of sense, I'll consider it to be progress.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.