(April 12, 2016 at 12:30 pm)Drich Wrote:(April 12, 2016 at 11:01 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: No you aren't. Nor do you have the authority to do so. Treatment for all spectrum of disorders whether mental, physical, or a combination of both involves an individualized approach with both patient and physician involved in the decision making process.
Typically, clinicians will recommend the least invasive treatment options with a likelihood for success before exploring more invasive ones. Ex: Someone with cancer may opt for radiation therapy before a risky surgery. The MD will consider the patient's personal comfort level, and the patient will consider the clinical recommendations of their doctor. Likewise, someone with depression make opt for counseling before they explore therapeutic medication which often comes with unwanted side effects. Working Together, an individualized care plan for that patient is formed, and is subject to revision at anytime depending on how efficacious it is.
So, my question to you Drich, is: even if we "agree" that gender dysphoria IS an illness, why do you feel you have the credentials to make determinations on what the correct course of "treatment" should be for these people? If patient and physician decide that transitioning is the most appropriate treatment plan for that individual, and part of transition means living daily life as the sex you identify with (i.e. you get to use the toilet of the gender you identify with), why do you feel you have a case for objecting to that? Why do you feel you have a case for arguing that transition doesn't count as treatment?
Oh, my glob..
TREATMENT IS NOT A CONCERN IN THIS TOPIC!
I don't care how they under go treatment! Since I seem to be the ONLY one who has read Anything clinical on the subject Before I made my first comment/The OP I am well aware of how treatment is carried out in SOME Cases. And I also know how it is carried out in others. Again I worded my OP to over look treatment as it is a non issue. The issue here is the diagnosible disorder that transsexuals share.
Your hero Esq intentionally introduced the strawman of treatment so he could go and soap box off on how I didn't account for AB or C therefore my summary should be dismissed... Again, AB nor C has anything to do with the 123 points I was actually making.
Lol, oh my glob, yes it IS. You just said a few posts back that letting the transgendered use the bathroom of their choosing is "indulging their illness." You are commenting that allowing them to do this is making them "worse" rather then helping "treat" them. So, now you have to support your position on what constitutes treatment.
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