(May 8, 2016 at 9:17 am)Irrational Wrote:(May 8, 2016 at 9:12 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: How is someone else forcing you instead of your genes/environment forcing you any more depriving of free will?
Well, it all comes down to how one defines free will obviously, but there is a difference between doing something that you at least feel like you did by choice and doing something because you were forced to.
It's all relative, of course. If by free will, you're like many others referring to that weird something that isn't even definable, that should be of no relevance. It doesn't concern us.
Yes, the difference being in one case you're deluded and in another you're more cognizant of what's actually going on.
Free will - the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
There's no such thing, and there's no other meaning these two words take that I know of.