(June 5, 2016 at 10:58 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: @paulplabo
I think I've discussed the issue of value/praise/morality in a way in the past threads and over the years, that it is linked to God and that God it's ultimate source and basis.
Ultimately, I don't mind going through these discussions again.
The problem is that Atheists want to say that moral statements are neither true or false but rather they are simply what a person thinks. Praise statements are also neither true or false.
"The problem is that Atheists want to say that moral statements are neither true or false but rather they are simply what a person thinks."
1) I don't know if this is true of all atheists.
2) You're wording of this is dishonest in a suggestive way. You're suggesting that atheists haven't rationally come to the conclusion that morals are what someone thinks morals are, but rather they just WANT to say it. It's just desirable rather than rational.
It would be more accurate to say that some atheists have reasoned that moral statements are based on what people think rather than what god has told them because they don't believe god exists.
Ok I'll carry on reading now.
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