RE: Return of Mel Gibson
September 7, 2016 at 7:09 am
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2016 at 7:12 am by Fake Messiah.)
(September 5, 2016 at 6:06 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: John Lennon apparently beat the shit out of his wives (although it seems he got better by the time Sean was born); Klaus Kinski raped his daughters and, from what I've been able to gleam, seemed to be just open enough about it (just ask William Malone) to not be arrested; William S. Burroughs killed his own wife and served hardly any jail time for it; Walter Brennan was an outspoken opponent of the civil rights movement, up to the point where he celebrated when Martin Luther King Jr. got assassinated; Roman Polanski drugged and raped a 13-year-old girl; Edgar Degas was a virulent antisemite who got even worse after news of the Dreyfus affair came out. The list goes on and on, and even longer if we include the ones whose misdeeds weren't verified. And yet, we didn't let any of them drop out of the cultural consciousness for their misdeeds. Why should Mel Gibson be any different?
OK I understand that people can be scum in private and yes it usually doesn't bother me to that point that I won't watch some movie from that person. You mention Roman Polanski who raped 13-year-old girl and some people like to call him a pedophile, especially Catholic Church that likes to use him as "one that people don't care that he rapes kids so why criticize us?". But when it comes to Polanski I don't see him as a pedophile because 1) there weren't other girls accusing him of that like boys do priests 2) he was going trough extremely rough times 3) whole thing does look very murky, I mean if this was your everyday innocent girl why wasn't she at school or at home learning instead of being alone with a strange man? It's not like altar boys that are supposed to be in church doing their work and then get raped by priests.
To be honest it seems to me she was a teenage prostitute, because she wanted money from him and when he didn't want to pay she dragged him to court. Unfortunately there are many of those around Hollywood.
There is Burroughs and he was a junky along with his wife and they were both high, he also had a son that died of overdose. Stuff about Lennon and Kinski I haven't heard before and to be honest I don't know what's the source about Lennon? Maybe he beat his 1st wife, but I doubt about Yoko, in other words he changed unlike Gibson.
But I guess what differs Gibson from these people, at least for me, is that he encourages people to be racist. It's not like Lennon (if he was a wife-beater) made songs that went "Slap that bitch every day she deserves it."
What is also with Gibson that he also has racist father and I remember in the days just before Gibson's fall from fame his father told the press how holocaust is a lie and Gibson, instead of apologizing, actually criticized reporters for bothering his "old father" and actually made himself look like a victim. And what finally got him driven away wasn't his antisemitic bursts but when he used slurs against black people. I mean you can talk a lot against the Jews and people will tolerate it but when it comes to blacks it's much more sensitive.
(September 5, 2016 at 6:06 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: I recall Apocalypto being watchable, although I don't remember much about it.
Well I recall "Apocalypto" being ripoff of "The Naked Prey" only, let's face it, kind of racist. Those South American people were portrayed as being higly barbaric, totally unable to live with each-other, and then, at the end, the Catholic Church comes and brings civilization.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"