(November 4, 2016 at 3:36 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(November 4, 2016 at 12:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But the law does play a role bc it effects people's culpability. As far as you're concerned you did nothing wrong and the law agrees. I do not think people like you should go to jail. I do not think you are a bad person or a criminal.
A more appropriate question would be whether I think it should be illegal to discard very young human beings conceived through IVF. And the answer to that is yes, I do. I think IVF should be done and handled in a way that is more in line with respecting the life of the individual. Being adopted out would be a much more ethical option imho. For those who choose to ignore the law and treat their IVF offspring in a way that is disrespectful to his/her life, yeah, I believe they should go to jail.
Wow, you're really doing your darnedest to dance around giving your actual opinion. You don't think I'm a criminal, but you think what I've done should be illegal. Do you see the problem? If these were actual humans and it was illegal to discard them, then I would definitely be a criminal deserving of jail. It's okay. You can say it.
Do you know how IVF works? You have to create more embryos than you need, because they're not all going to be equally viable. You implant the ones that have the highest chance of becoming a pregnancy. So, not only would you have to force some woman to carry the extra embryos, those that would usually be discarded already have a high chance of becoming miscarriages. If you believe embryos are human, there's no way to have an IVF process that wouldn't involve crimes against people.
I'm not sure why you think I'm dancing around giving my opinion. I feel I made myself very clear... twice. Yeah, I think what you did should be illegal. But while it isn't, I don't think people who did it "deserve" to go to jail for doing something that they neither have a personal ethical objection to, or is against the law. I don't know what else you want me to say.
As for the second part, that's why I'm ethically opposed to IVF, as I said earlier. Unless it can be done in a way that gives each offspring the respect it deserves as a human being, I don't think it should be done at all.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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