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[Catholic_Lady]

Catholic_Lady Wrote:

See, this is the interesting bit. I say the "left over" embryos from IVF need to be handled with more humanity, and get crap. Min comes in and says more babies should be aborted and no one bats an eye.

Because, dear, you are far too quick to tell other people how to live their lives.  I should not have to demonstrate to you by now that I don't give a rat's ass about yours (or any) religion.  This is a simple issue of you not minding your own business.  When you are getting up in the middle of the night changing shit-filled diapers or paying to put the little unwanted bastards through school then it becomes your business. 

Forcing women to have kids they don't want is simply oppression of women.,  I know your church is fine with that.... but I am not.

And yeah, the government should pay for it because it is much cheaper in the long run.

This has nothing to do with religion. Any atheist will say that someone doesn't need to believe in God to know that killing the innocent is wrong, and I agree 100%. That's why I have not needed to bring God into the equation at all in this discussion.  

I understand not wanting to be parents, but people know that sex makes babies. If 2 people choose to have unprotected sex, they are consenting to the very real possibility of creating new life. 

We must also not forget that adoption is always an option. And I don't need a man to tell me that pregnancy sucks because I know it first hand. While most women feel mildly sick for the first trimester, I was severely sick during the entire 5 1/2 months of my pregnancy. There were days where I was barely able to move. My mental health was declining as well because of this, and for the last month of my pregnancy the baby was diagnosed with severe IUGR and I spent that month pregnant with a baby who I knew would die inside me. For a whole month, I was sick and pregnant and knew I wasn't even going to get a baby out of it. So I get it. I get that pregnancy and adoption are hard.

And I get that people make mistakes, and this isn't about "punishment" for them. But when the consequences of your actions involve either having to be pregnant for 9 months, or killing the completely innocent bystander who had nothing to do with the situation he was put in, the former seems like the obvious answer. Pregnancy is temporary, death is not. 

Also, I think you are forgetting that having a kid can really change someone, should they choose to keep rather than adopt out. There are many many people who are beside themselves when they have an unwanted pregnancy, but then they go on to have the baby and end up loving them so much and never being able to imagine life without them. I'm sure there are infinitely more people who regret abortions than those who have the baby and wish they had aborted them instead. It's not like many people become parents without wanting to and then think "Oh gosh, I wish I had aborted my son/daughter. Now I'm forced to care for them."