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More about God
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RE: More about God
Jesster

I will not lie to myself and choose another word to describe it. Seeing things right, is mainly based on using the correct words to describe things. Calling a lion a sheep will never change the fact: a lion is a lion and a sheep is a sheep; calling a peacock a crow will never change the fact -even if the peacock got some black feathers here and there-: that it is indeed a peacock.

Computers use "master/slave" protocols all the time:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37369...chitecture

They didn't call the architecture with any other names, because the name that's what makes sense, the right one is this: slave/master protocol.
If our ego got destroyed, everybody will have a better life in my opinion.

Primordial Bisque

We can't see him, so what happens in this forum happens: so that humanity get tested so some believe, some others don't.
Logically, our ancestors had to be in heaven, then get seduced by another creation, yet to be on this planet, and give birth to the human race, that will live the moment the parents lived: the moment Satan comes to whisper; over and over, generation by generation, until we reach a certain limit though. 

Until we die of course; in our case. 

Then rise, to find God, and know that this life was such a short one. 

He created the null though. It belongs to our world; outside there are other stuff - 6 heavens and we live in the first-.
Null might not mean a thing outside of this world?

Read about what came before the big bang. Interesting stuff.

Rhythm

The sun shines everyday though; earthquakes happen, tornadoes happen, death happens. We cant change that.
We are made from flesh; we can't change that.
We are a result of a big bang. We can't change that also.

If all that is valid, then how is the existence of a creator is so foreign to our minds? perhaps the image you have for the word "God" is different than the image I have in my head.

Perhaps it's the centuries of heathen ruling and Christian crusades, mixed with Jewish racism, and now Islamic terrorism and banality?


Quote:Wasn't "allah" either...so I'm not sure why you think this is relevant, lol?  

Agreeing on the fundamentals is a good thing though: "we came to this world helpless, unable to choose when or where or how".
It's relevant because simply, it's not wise to buy what many modern atheists take for granted; as a leap of faith; that there is nothing before the big bang.

That the big bang "just happened".
The rest is up to your observation. Allah fills the empty space, when we think about before.

If you think though, that the big bang "just happened"; then I must seriously question your reason, and seek my answers elsewhere.


Also, the world is too beautiful to be...a lucky hit of particles.


Quote:You know that's not what it means to be a slave, right, but so what if that ignorant notion of slavery as having to do with eating and breathing were true...I can't do anything about those...and yet still you don't find me picking the prayer cotton.  So I guess he's just feeding me food and air for the hell of it.  What a sucker.  Back in my great granpappies day, they killed a useless field animal.  Your massa is, apparently, fine with me goin straight mandingo on his ass. 


The definition of a slave, is from google's results:


Quote:noun

  1. 1.
    (especially in the past) a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.


Let's walk through the meaning, and see if it applies:

-a person: all of us are people; persons.
-we are a legal property: legally, by the laws of physics, we are properties of the law that governs our current case. Apply gravity, we get pulled. Apply an opposite force and we shall resist. All of science is built up on this rule of the "slave" definition; legally; by law. Math and physics prove it. Fall from a height, you die. Overload a ship, it sinks. Resist, you might survive; though black holes are always there to show us the limitations. By law. Legally. Legal possessions

-Forced to obey: holding your breath under the water is a fine example; "forced to breath".


Quote:Meh, you're a slave, you have a slave mentality.  I can't help you there.  Bet you're the kind of guy that'd take the whip to your fellow field hands if massa said so, too.... / shrugs.

When the case presents itself that way, I have to accept it. I seriously have no right to proud of a skin I didn't make, a country I didn't choose to be born in, or even claim the ownership of something I didn't make or hence: assembled from the creation of another.

It's like claiming control over the pyramids, and claiming that I built it.

Everything we make, is mere assembling of different pieces. 
And we are forced to assemble them, either by the power of delicious taste, or dreams of glory, or perhaps dreams of immortality?


Quote:Apparently I'm either not such a weak creature that I actually surrender, or your gods not powerful enough to force me to do it.  Either way, Massas pretty small for a slaver, and the most he could call me was his prisoner, lol.

You surrender with every breath but you reject it and refuse it, while a believer acknowledges this fact.
You surrender yet again, to gravity, your mind can fool you to believe that you're flying, but actually you're falling.


Quote:...I don;t give a shit about massa's reasons or morality, he's a slaver and I'm not a slave, lol.  He can go fuck himself, and also, send more food and air.  KTHXBAI. 

Slavery to him is different than slavery to man; just like the slave/master protocol in computers is different, and just like being subjective to physics laws is different, just like falling from a height and expecting to fly -without means of flying- is stupidity; not wisdom.


Quote:Then I'm not his slave after all, like you are. Sucks to be you?

The definition says otherwise.


Quote:Your gods never asked me to do anything, and slavers don't ask anyway, they command.  Why would I care what muslims do...you're the ambassador of the brand and here you are bullshitting us about human chattel?

He did command, actually that's the word used in the Quran.
I'm not bulshitting, Rhythm, but I studied and searched, a lot, this is what I found. I can't accept the notions presented by the modern world for creation, it goes against every word I ever studied about programming, I'm good at coding and writing code because of what I believe.

Object Oriented Programming is the reason behind what we have today. And object oriented programming traces every object to a source. 
Should I disbelieve in that, and assume that the world is not an object?
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More about God - by WinterHold - November 11, 2016 at 5:35 pm
RE: More about God - by Iroscato - November 11, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: More about God - by Cato - November 11, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: More about God - by WinterHold - November 11, 2016 at 6:38 pm
RE: More about God - by Foxaèr - November 11, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: More about God - by brewer - November 11, 2016 at 5:40 pm
RE: More about God - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 5:42 pm
RE: More about God - by Jesster - November 11, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: More about God - by WinterHold - November 12, 2016 at 8:42 am
RE: More about God - by Primordial Bisque - November 11, 2016 at 6:41 pm
RE: More about God - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: More about God - by Doubting Thomas - November 12, 2016 at 1:23 am
RE: More about God - by robvalue - November 12, 2016 at 8:49 am
RE: More about God - by WinterHold - November 14, 2016 at 2:22 am
RE: More about God - by Tonus - November 14, 2016 at 9:40 am
RE: More about God - by GUBU - November 12, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: More about God - by Jesster - November 12, 2016 at 9:08 am
RE: More about God - by Homeless Nutter - November 12, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: More about God - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: More about God - by robvalue - November 12, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: More about God - by Tonus - November 12, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: More about God - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2016 at 10:27 am
RE: More about God - by robvalue - November 12, 2016 at 2:23 pm
RE: More about God - by Minimalist - November 12, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: More about God - by Minimalist - November 12, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: More about God - by chimp3 - November 12, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: More about God - by The Grand Nudger - November 12, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: More about God - by purplepurpose - November 12, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: More about God - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 2:27 am
RE: More about God - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: More about God - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 2:37 am
RE: More about God - by Jesster - November 14, 2016 at 3:58 am
RE: More about God - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 4:24 am
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