RE: [split] The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 5, 2016 at 6:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2016 at 6:55 pm by Mystical.)
Do you recall how I responded to you in the last thread? It was cumpulsary reassurance, because you compelled me to reassure you, with the ultimatum of you leaving the forum. Plain and simple, that's how anyone reading that, would take that, and you yourself admitted you were seeking reassurances. Not saying that's wrong for you to do, and I do take into account the tenuous way you may feel about being part of these forums considering recent events that most of the forum aren't aware of.
What you see here though, is what you get. Personally I think you got a little carried away with EP and went into defense mode then felt ostracized in your mind when people called you on it or even just pointed it out! Hence the insecurities that led you to announce a possible departure. Absolutely yes put your emotions on the table if you feel compelled to! I myself like cleared air.
But please, dont tell others how they should or shouldn't feel about your extreme reaction to mundane occurances.
ShellB, Thumps, Nymphadora, Dierdre and others-- they have fair points. You also have a point in that you can take their care and advice or leave it. But here's what you should take into account--if no one cared, they wouldn't have said, anything. And by leaving their advice and telling them that they can't have those feelings/you're not responsibile for those feelings seems like a cop out. Saying you're probably leaving is serious to those who wouldnt want a world without Hammie! I personally believe that you need to respect the repurcussions that that may have on their/our feelings. It's not just about your feelings. I can see C_L cares about you a lot. Lots of peoples feelings would be hurt if you left just because you thought you were unwanted. Because in my case you are very much cared for.
You can't push your excessive needs for reassurances then expect someone not to feel compelled to want to give you advice on how not to feel as badly as you've demonstrated. Because--and don't take this the wrong way if you can, I say this out of love-- we're all adults here and we aren't responsible for babysitting each other's feelings. Feel as you do, say how you feel, but don't be surprised when people who care get upset when you hold them emotionally hostage, and seek to help you free yourself from such extreme emotions. I mean, most rational adults aren't going to be as sensitive as you are about an online forum. Your disability and habits limit you to online interaction and due to this, it may make things difficult for you to uphold in the long run if you put the burden of your ups and downs on how you perceive you're being seen or treated by forum friends and internet strangers. I think you have compulsions that you need to recognize as being hurtful to your relations with others which are worse at some times than others, and seek another forum as a secondary safe place and not hedge all your bets on one so it isn't so pivotal in your phsyche to be in good standing constantly with everyone here. Thats a lot of pressure on a mind wired the way yours is! It's just never going to happen--people are going to dislike you the second you (or I, or anyone) open our mouths. We just gotta ride it out and in your case, fight your compulsions when they appear. If all you can do is direct them elsewhere, do it! This isn't a psych forum, don't expect everyone to understand you or know how to deal with you.
What you see here though, is what you get. Personally I think you got a little carried away with EP and went into defense mode then felt ostracized in your mind when people called you on it or even just pointed it out! Hence the insecurities that led you to announce a possible departure. Absolutely yes put your emotions on the table if you feel compelled to! I myself like cleared air.
But please, dont tell others how they should or shouldn't feel about your extreme reaction to mundane occurances.
ShellB, Thumps, Nymphadora, Dierdre and others-- they have fair points. You also have a point in that you can take their care and advice or leave it. But here's what you should take into account--if no one cared, they wouldn't have said, anything. And by leaving their advice and telling them that they can't have those feelings/you're not responsibile for those feelings seems like a cop out. Saying you're probably leaving is serious to those who wouldnt want a world without Hammie! I personally believe that you need to respect the repurcussions that that may have on their/our feelings. It's not just about your feelings. I can see C_L cares about you a lot. Lots of peoples feelings would be hurt if you left just because you thought you were unwanted. Because in my case you are very much cared for.
You can't push your excessive needs for reassurances then expect someone not to feel compelled to want to give you advice on how not to feel as badly as you've demonstrated. Because--and don't take this the wrong way if you can, I say this out of love-- we're all adults here and we aren't responsible for babysitting each other's feelings. Feel as you do, say how you feel, but don't be surprised when people who care get upset when you hold them emotionally hostage, and seek to help you free yourself from such extreme emotions. I mean, most rational adults aren't going to be as sensitive as you are about an online forum. Your disability and habits limit you to online interaction and due to this, it may make things difficult for you to uphold in the long run if you put the burden of your ups and downs on how you perceive you're being seen or treated by forum friends and internet strangers. I think you have compulsions that you need to recognize as being hurtful to your relations with others which are worse at some times than others, and seek another forum as a secondary safe place and not hedge all your bets on one so it isn't so pivotal in your phsyche to be in good standing constantly with everyone here. Thats a lot of pressure on a mind wired the way yours is! It's just never going to happen--people are going to dislike you the second you (or I, or anyone) open our mouths. We just gotta ride it out and in your case, fight your compulsions when they appear. If all you can do is direct them elsewhere, do it! This isn't a psych forum, don't expect everyone to understand you or know how to deal with you.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.