Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 29, 2024, 3:54 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Milo Yiannopoulos; the man twitter banned got a book deal. Currently #2 on Amazon.
RE: Milo Yiannopoulos; the man twitter banned got a book deal. Currently #2 on Amazon.
(January 7, 2017 at 2:44 pm)CanOfMountainDew Wrote: It depends what you mean when you say 'wage gap' as to whether it's been proven false or not.

If you mean to say that women are paid less than men by virtue of sexism, that's literally non falsifiable. It's non falsifiable because sexism is a state of mind, and reading minds is impossible. There are instances in which a man and a woman, working the same position, are not paid the same salary. The person employing them would tell you the one making more is more efficient - or give off a myriad of other reasons as to why the higher-paid one is justified in receiving more. They'll tell you everything other than that it's because they're a sexist, and maybe they'd be lying in doing so. One can't know. However, just because we don't conclusively know, we don't get to just assert any explanation we want - that would be a 'god of the gaps fallacy.'

If you mean to say that if you add up all the money women make into a pile, and add up all the money men make into a pile, that the mens pile will be larger; yes, that is true, and nobody objects that this is true. This truism isn't synonymous with, "men make more money than women for the same work because of sexism", though.

This is a pretty interesting perspective.  I'm not sure I agree with the statement that it's non-falsifiable.  At least not in the same sense that god is non-falsifiable.  Behavior and states of mind are always being correlated to one another in order to diagnose patients, e.g. psychopathy.  How effective that is, might be questionable, but I don't know enough to comment on that either way.

In response to the god of the gaps fallacy part of the first paragraph, I think that is fair.

I also agree with the last paragraph as well.  But I think when people talk about the wage gap, that is not what they are talking about.

As far as I can tell, when people talk about the wage gap, their are two issues that they are trying to address.  The first issue and the more controversial issue, is to address if men are paid more than women for equal work solely because they are men.  The second issue, as I understand it, is addressing why men make more money on the whole, and if these reasons can be defined as a difference in preferences between men and women, or as something else.

E.g. Did SAT format potentially hold women back from applying to STEM programs.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Milo Yiannopoulos; the man twitter banned got a book deal. Currently #2 on Amazon. - by Aristocatt - January 7, 2017 at 3:05 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Trans women banned from world chess LinuxGal 37 2866 October 15, 2023 at 10:10 pm
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Caroline Farrow got arrested, spending 5 hours in jail. Jehanne 2 670 October 18, 2022 at 2:58 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  Trump back on Twitter? onlinebiker 13 676 April 26, 2022 at 2:29 am
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate
Thumbs Up Got H2O? onlinebiker 18 1156 July 23, 2021 at 5:25 pm
Last Post: onlinebiker
  Vegan couple banned from owning pets Foxaèr 11 1010 May 9, 2021 at 6:41 pm
Last Post: Mermaid
  Face coverings in public banned Foxaèr 10 729 March 10, 2021 at 6:13 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Misinformation drops dramatically after Trump gets banned from Twitter TaraJo 22 1684 January 20, 2021 at 9:59 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Guns banned in Michigan State Capitol. onlinebiker 52 3008 January 13, 2021 at 7:37 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Anybody got any Pfizer stock they don't need? Gawdzilla Sama 30 1321 November 12, 2020 at 8:19 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  BREAKING: Former Twitter employees charged with spying for Saudi Arabia WinterHold 14 898 September 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)