RE: ★★ We are all atheists/atheistic to ALL Gods (says simple science)
January 11, 2017 at 1:54 pm
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2017 at 2:57 pm by ProgrammingGodJordan.)
@Asmodee
The point is, humans shan't regard any event as true/absolute.
As far as science goes, we may only regard events as probable.
One may perhaps regard events as true, if one maintains omniscience. [Otherwise, one shall probably argue from omniscience]
PS: Perhaps you shall avoid usage of words such as 'quite' that construe absoluteness.
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@Ben Davis
As I mentioned before:
(1) We shan't believe/ie we shan't regard any event as true.
(2) Belief is illogical, whether the definition construes truth, or not.
From website: "Thusly, belief is illogical abound the absolute and non-absolute description paradigm[/color]"
So, non-beliefism had long encoded that belief need not be described to contain truth/certainty; whence belief is illogical regardless.
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@Faith No More
Let us break it down:
(1) Belief has the probability of containing non-science/nonsense.
(ie belief MAY contain non-science)
(2) Logic/science does not have the probability of containing non-science.
(ie logic/science MAY NOT contain non-science)
(3) ie.... scientific-evidence does not have the probability of containing non-scientific-evidence.
(ie scientific evidence MAY NOT contain non-scientific evidence)
(4) So belief is illogical.
(ie belief MAY contain non-science, where as logic/science can't contain non-science, so belief is clearly illogical)
Asmodee Wrote:What I was saying is quite simple. I CAN regard any event as true, total or absolute. I just might not be right.
The point is, humans shan't regard any event as true/absolute.
As far as science goes, we may only regard events as probable.
One may perhaps regard events as true, if one maintains omniscience. [Otherwise, one shall probably argue from omniscience]
PS: Perhaps you shall avoid usage of words such as 'quite' that construe absoluteness.
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@Ben Davis
Ben Davis Wrote:Cherry-pick much?
You're entire premise is dependent on the attribute 'truth' being defined in it's most narrow context. You ignore the attribute 'acceptance' and the broader definitions of 'true' which are more appropriate in the context of belief. As has been stated many times, your requirement for certainty/absolutism is not necessary for a definition of belief and is about as far from a valid rebuttal of the existence of belief as you can get. You've conducted a poor analysis by failing to include all attributes of the entity and you have failed to recognise how to improve it in spite of advice from peer review.
As an aside, I assume you regularly describe/ascribe entities and attributes in your role as programming god. You should apply the same rigour to your philosophical considerations.
As I mentioned before:
(1) We shan't believe/ie we shan't regard any event as true.
(2) Belief is illogical, whether the definition construes truth, or not.
From website: "Thusly, belief is illogical abound the absolute and non-absolute description paradigm[/color]"
So, non-beliefism had long encoded that belief need not be described to contain truth/certainty; whence belief is illogical regardless.
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@Faith No More
Faith No More Wrote:I find many errors, yes, not the least of which is the fact that your conclusion is a complete non-sequitur.
But the empirical evidence demonstrates that pointing out your errors and discussing this with you will be an extremely futile use of my energy, so enjoy your idiocy. I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you.
Let us break it down:
(1) Belief has the probability of containing non-science/nonsense.
(ie belief MAY contain non-science)
(2) Logic/science does not have the probability of containing non-science.
(ie logic/science MAY NOT contain non-science)
(3) ie.... scientific-evidence does not have the probability of containing non-scientific-evidence.
(ie scientific evidence MAY NOT contain non-scientific evidence)
(4) So belief is illogical.
(ie belief MAY contain non-science, where as logic/science can't contain non-science, so belief is clearly illogical)