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Grow The Fuck Up Already...
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already...
(January 11, 2017 at 7:18 pm)Rhythm Wrote: OFC cops are human beings, but when they put on the badge of the state we rightfully hold them to a higher standard than some random schmuck.  If that's too much to ask, then either they need to be removed from duty, or we need to change the situation we put them in.  Perhaps they should be heavily armored, not heavily armed?  

Racism isn't assumed to be a problem, it's repeatedly demonstrated to be a problem.  200 deaths seems to leave a few deaths out, and countless abuses that don't end in death.  

As to cops not preventing crime....think this through.  How do cops prevent crimes?  They show up after the fact.  People call them to report a crime in progress, or a crime that's already been committed.  They're not a pre-crime unit.  The number of crimes in an area is more properly attributed to socio-economic factors and emotional decisions, not the presence or number of police.  

A dispassionate examination of our police forces repeatedly show institutional racism which leads to reformation of departments, some actual...some window dressing.  This you seem to think can be whitewashed by complaing for them, about how hard their job is.  It's a volunteer job.  They can quit if it's too hard to be a cop, and, imo, they should.  Is hating cops what you think BLM is about, in any case?  Who told you that?  

I want to point out here that were basically flirting back and for with -why- theres no reason to think that millenials will drift rightward.  You;re defending institutions, millennials are not institutionalists (and can you blame us, with the institutions availabe for our consideration), as a demographic we're individualists, finding that we side with the individuals wronged over the institution that wrongs them shouldn't be surprising...it also explains why we don't vote, lol.

Cops DO prevent crime. The increase in the murder rate in Chicago when the police slow down in their policing activities is proof positive of this. This is true everywhere and always has been true. I'm sorry you see the cops as a revenge force on crime but that is not the reason for their social necessity.

The reality is that those people who are in a position to try and improve the lives we're discussing don't have the luxury of hate. Hate the cops all you want, hate the institutions all you want but the reality is that there is no future without black people in it and there is no future without police in it. So we need to come up with something better than just thinking that the police are all a bunch of racist assholes, call them out on it and... problem solved. There's a million cops and the vast majority are just like you and me. 

Let's also not forget that we are on the same side. Black lives do matter. The fact that I disagree that the entirety of the problem is racism and racist cops is based on the numbers. Contrary to the emotions generated by videos, the number of blacks, whites, Asians, Latinos etc... being killed by the police is in proportion to the crime rates of those groups. Again, I'm not claiming there is no racism and that we can safely ignore racism. I'm saying that we ignore everything else at our own peril. Chicago is the perfect example of this. If you really care about black lives why ignore the carnage that IS occurring just because it's not the cops doing the shooting. Why ignore that policing activities dramatically lowers the number of dead black people?

You say you're about individualism. Great, then how about viewing the cops as a bunch of individuals rather than a homogeneous group of lazy, racists. You don't fight racism by lumping an entire group of a million people into one tidy pile.
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Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Minimalist - January 10, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by vorlon13 - January 10, 2017 at 10:37 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Minimalist - January 10, 2017 at 10:39 pm
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RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by vorlon13 - January 10, 2017 at 10:41 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 9:43 am
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RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 3:22 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Minimalist - January 10, 2017 at 10:43 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Brian37 - January 11, 2017 at 10:41 am
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by ignoramus - January 10, 2017 at 10:43 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Chad32 - January 10, 2017 at 10:47 pm
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RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Thumpalumpacus - January 10, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Minimalist - January 10, 2017 at 11:00 pm
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by The Grand Nudger - January 11, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by GUBU - January 11, 2017 at 6:26 am
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by chimp3 - January 11, 2017 at 7:11 am
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Ben Davis - January 11, 2017 at 8:16 am
RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Thal - January 11, 2017 at 12:15 pm
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RE: Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by Faith No More - January 11, 2017 at 7:05 pm
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Grow The Fuck Up Already... - by KUSA - January 12, 2017 at 5:49 pm
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