RE: Debate: God Exists
March 11, 2017 at 4:57 am
(This post was last modified: March 11, 2017 at 5:02 am by downbeatplumb.)
(March 10, 2017 at 3:04 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 10, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Once upon a time, the luminiferous aether was a plausible, rational explanation that tied things together in a cohesive manner. It also turned out under scrutiny not to exist and to be unnecessary to reality.
Today they call it quantum foam :-)
There were many theories that tied things together: land bridges, phologistrom etc but they failed when they didn't bring proof to the table and were bested by better evidence for competing theories.
(March 10, 2017 at 10:02 pm)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote: I am curious as to how some people can claim that it is more plausible that God exists. What method does one use to assess the probability of God's existence?
The problem I have with this is that the existence of some kind of mind that exists independently of the universe, at least right now, seems to be something we cannot even investigate in principle, and so far, we have shown that some deities CANNOT exist, like the deity who created the world 6000 years ago. The Christian God can be shown to be false. However, not a single God can be shown to be true, and the only evidence we have indicates that it MIGHT be possible that there is SOME kind of god. Just like it might be possible that Russel's teapot exists.
Far from being able to demonstrate god's existence, one could make the argument that god is nothing more than a logically incoherent concept.
There is also the problem that the only way to get to intelligence is to evolve, so we would require an entirely separate dimension peopled by fucking proto gods in a competitive environment suitable for the development of intelligence.
In short, one god is less likely that a breeding population.
And all that was supposed to happen in a region that is supposed to have no time material or special dimensions, I find all that rather unlikely.
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