RE: The argument against God
January 17, 2009 at 12:28 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2009 at 12:29 pm by DD_8630.)
(January 17, 2009 at 5:23 am)dagda Wrote: Perhaps I should clarify my thoughts on god (as LukeMC suggests). My belife is very complex and time consuming to explain hence I will simplify and minimalise as best I can.It's not that it's boring, but rather that it's useless: the Bible is no more justification than Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. If you could give us reason to believe that the Bible (or, at least, the relevant parts) is accurate, then that's a different story.
Outwith space-time there is a source. The Tao if you will. This is the source of all that exists and all that does not (as things outwith space-time don't exist in any way that would be familure to the material world). Whether this Tao has any concious thought is beond me.
Anyway, from the source sprung Aeons. The closest comparison would be angels, I suppose, but not quite. One of these Aeons we can call Sophia. She created the material world (for what reason I do not know-perhaps a mistake or a well meaning experiment?) and the Hebrew God to watch over it (who we shall name Ildaboath).
The Ildaboath formed the material world into what we would know it as (although I think Eden may be symbolic of this creation rather than a litteral truth). He is not evil, per say, but actually thinks he is the one true God. He is imperfect and arogant and in his creation of the world and humanity in particular, this rubbed off (he has the same flaws as humanity, just more powerful).
The aim of humanity should be to escape the material world and the Aeons (or some of them, at leasr) have been attenpting to aid us in this quest at various times (serpent in Eden, Christ ect). However, we must not put all our hopes in the Aeons, we must escape on our own steam for the most part.
I could back all this up with textual evidence from the bible but I feel this would bore you all.
So, my question is: why do you believe the Bible to be anything other than the collective myths of Bronze-age nomads? Why do you believe the Bible and not, say, the Qu'ran, or the Vedic texts, or the Kitab-i-Aqdas?
"I am a scientist... when I find evidence that my theories are wrong, it is as exciting as if the evidence proved them right." - Stargate: SG1
A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin
A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone. - Charles Darwin