RE: Here is why you should believe in God.
April 5, 2020 at 10:51 am
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2020 at 10:51 am by R00tKiT.)
(April 5, 2020 at 10:23 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'll chalk the above up to a language barrier for generosity. I didn't agree with you on any inference. I detailed exactly why your proposition could not support the inference you make, or the conclusion derived from it.
You clearly said inference is reasonable, that no one is arguing about it. If so, why won't you go with what's actually reasonable..?
(April 5, 2020 at 10:23 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a non sequitur - logically invalid. That's why it's not a good reason. Are you using the term good reason in some other way?*
"We exist, therefore the requirements of our existence are met" - follows
"We exist, therefore moongod"....simply does not.
Of course it doesn't logically follow. That's what my post is about - logical proofs don't actually matter that much practically, we inferred a burglar from some hints on a crime scene, we have billions more hints around us to infer a creator.
Nothing a detective gathers as evidence logically implies a personal, intelligent criminal. But he acts and infers on hints he finds. And that's what you have in real life, precise physical/chemical laws, diversity of creation, DNA, etc........
(April 5, 2020 at 10:23 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If you are using good reason some other way, I can think of plenty of good reasons that you should believe in god..even if they still wouldn't be good reasons for me to believe in god. Right down to "I think I saw one" - ...fine, at some level if you're convinced that you've had a personal experience with the divine
I don't have any personal experience with the divine, you're mistaking us for christians here, I think.
(April 5, 2020 at 10:23 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Unfortunately for that contention..I have never seen one, and I don't believe in things just because some nutball says he saw a ghost.
I have never seen one either. Now you better pick an option on what happened to Muhammad back in the Hira cave, I hope you don't think he lied knowingly to everyone surrounding him for 23 years, that he was at least sincere and convinced that he saw an angel, so well that he uttered a landmark literary work ..........