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Biblical Morality
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RE: Biblical Morality
(March 5, 2009 at 9:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I know quite a lot about my subject. Scientists as scientists know diddly squat. If you're claiming that scientists are by definition experts on theism then that's extremely odd to me. Also, please refrain from swearing at me, I'm not allowed to swear at you so I'd like a little fairness please.

I think there would be quite a few scientists who would take umbrage at your assertion that they know diddly squat.

I'm sure you do but, from where I'm sitting, only from a certain POV; it requires persons with a more objective POV and less of an agenda to look at the bigger picture ... some scientists (like Dawkins) are exceptionally good at demonstrating exactly what religious beliefs are IMO.

It's probably worth pointing out that it wasn't AT you (did I say you're being "frakking" something? No I didn't) and also that I didn't actually swear (and yes I know exactly what I said that's why I am fairly confident that I didn't swear).

(March 5, 2009 at 9:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Truth isn't a variable commodity!!! Show me evidence to support that.

OK ... I'll try and keep this simple but if you want more long-winded explanations we can go there.

First of all science is not about truth, it's about methodology, it's about knowledge, it's about facts and explaining those facts as reasonably as possible but here's the thing ... no matter how confident we (science) are about a given explanation we can NEVEFR say it's true because truth implies certainty and science can NEVER be certain.

Secondly science is the only philosophy that actually works ... nothing else has EVER explained anything in the real world (maths is an exception but maths still requires testing in the real world).

If nothing can ever be held to be absolute than nothing can ever be utterly true IOW we can only approach certainty but can never reach it.

Truth varies.

Ultimately I would sum it up in the following way ... there's your truth, their truth and the facts.

(March 5, 2009 at 9:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Another insult - you're calling me insane. why are you allowed to get away with that when I'm not?

Actually, although we can never be so, it was more like the sort of thing I would say to a friend you know, they say something which stretches your incredulity and you say, "What? You're insane!" it's little more than ribbing, and exclamatory remark, that's all. Come on, please tell me you're not so prudish as to not do similar things with your friends?

(March 5, 2009 at 9:17 am)fr0d0 Wrote: The bible is completely internally consistent. No one has proved to me that it isn't. Including you. Back up your statements please without resorting to petty insult.

OK, then can you explain the conflicting genealogies of Jesus Christ? Can you also enlighten me concerning the manner in which Judas Iscariot died?

Kyu

P.S. Again my apologies for editing your post, I got confused by my modding powers ... I've recovered it all but not in exactly the same format.
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Biblical Morality - by Eilonnwy - February 24, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Sam - February 25, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by moodydaniel - February 25, 2009 at 7:42 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Even Adam - March 1, 2009 at 8:18 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 11:05 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by LukeMC - March 1, 2009 at 11:20 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 11:30 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Eilonnwy - March 1, 2009 at 11:58 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 12:18 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Eilonnwy - March 1, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 1, 2009 at 3:07 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 1, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Even Adam - March 1, 2009 at 4:15 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 1, 2009 at 4:39 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Eilonnwy - March 1, 2009 at 4:33 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 1, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 2, 2009 at 9:04 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by padraic - March 1, 2009 at 9:04 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 2, 2009 at 8:23 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 2, 2009 at 11:13 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by padraic - March 2, 2009 at 7:29 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 3, 2009 at 5:37 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by padraic - March 3, 2009 at 6:42 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 3, 2009 at 8:03 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by leo-rcc - March 3, 2009 at 8:16 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 2, 2009 at 9:09 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 2, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 2, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by padraic - March 2, 2009 at 11:21 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2009 at 3:44 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 3, 2009 at 7:33 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2009 at 5:01 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by padraic - March 3, 2009 at 5:48 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 3, 2009 at 5:59 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 3, 2009 at 6:24 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 4, 2009 at 5:09 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 4, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 5, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 5, 2009 at 9:17 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 5, 2009 at 4:35 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 5, 2009 at 5:44 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 5, 2009 at 7:19 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 6, 2009 at 5:05 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Kyuuketsuki - March 6, 2009 at 7:48 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Eilonnwy - March 6, 2009 at 12:02 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 5:27 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 5, 2009 at 8:44 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 5, 2009 at 9:50 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by leo-rcc - March 5, 2009 at 9:20 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 5, 2009 at 10:10 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by fr0d0 - March 5, 2009 at 1:59 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Edwardo Piet - March 5, 2009 at 8:47 pm
RE: Biblical Morality - by Tiberius - March 6, 2009 at 10:43 am
RE: Biblical Morality - by bozo - March 8, 2009 at 6:58 pm

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