(March 1, 2009 at 11:34 am)fr0d0 Wrote:You believe you exist, and you have proof (evidence) of this. That is an evidence and reasoned statement. Well done.(March 1, 2009 at 11:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: faith -nounI believe I exist. I believe God exists. One I can have proof of, the other I can't. Where's the conflict?
belief that is not based on proof:belief that is not based on proof
evidence -noun
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
And you say they aren't in conflict?
You believe God exists, but you cannot prove the existence of God (as you admit) so you are not using evidence. A belief based on no evidence is faith.
There is the conflict. You cannot claim that you have faith in God and can prove he exists. To have faith in something means there is no way of proving it without evidence. If you claim faith in God, I have no problems with you; you are entitled to your own beliefs. If you claim you have proof of God, I want to see the evidence.