(March 7, 2009 at 8:53 am)fr0d0 Wrote: "How on earth does belief without evidence=questioning?" - how DOESN'T it? LOL *winks*
You gotta be joking here. As Adrian has already said faith (belief in something without evidence) is the very opposite of doubt and questioning.
(March 7, 2009 at 8:53 am)fr0d0 Wrote: "How do any of those mean "doubt" or "questioning"" - I was paraphrasing from another post. The opposite of faith isn't doubt, it's fear.
Um, no ... it's not. That implies that you think atheists are afraid to embrace faith in a god and I can assure you that the virtually none of us are afraid of your god or any other. Tell me ... are you afraid of Quetzalcoatl?
(March 7, 2009 at 8:53 am)fr0d0 Wrote: To have faith in something means you can't be absolutely sure. Otherwise you'd move from faith to fact.. something you need no faith for. If you're not sure of something then you are in doubt. To be doubtful implies questioning.
Again, no it doesn't ... faith religious or otherwise implies a degree of confidence. There are no absolutes in science therefore you are implicitly always question ... that's the nature of inductive reasoning.
(March 7, 2009 at 8:53 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Faith implies trust. An object of faith becomes such when a level of trust is reached. In no way do you trust something you're scared of. Quite the opposite. Fear is the opposite of trust.
See above and no, fear is not the opposite of trust for reasons already explained.
(March 7, 2009 at 8:53 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You can only believe in God through faith, yeah, because there can be no empirical evidence. To scientific questioning this is useless. And you'd be right to mock the non answer if it were a scientific question IMHO. So either it's a non answer or it isn't a scientific question. To admit that would be to admit that science doesn't have questions about everything we experience. Unless you know better....
In order for your god to affect this universe it must do something to it, if it has done something to i6t then it must leave a trail of evidence, if that evidence does not exist then, whilst we cannot be sure, we can reasonably assume that god DOES NOT exist. It rally is that simple.
Kyu
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