RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
August 11, 2015 at 6:54 am
(This post was last modified: August 11, 2015 at 7:05 pm by pocaracas.
Edit Reason: I grow tired of your incompetence.
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(August 10, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Tonus Wrote:(August 1, 2015 at 7:17 am)Little Rik Wrote: Pay attention Ton.Religious and spiritual thinking, Rik. The sort of old-fashioned and outmoded thinking that leads to suppression of rights and freedoms in favor of centralized power and control. What did you think lead to the lack of jobs and money and freedom?
The people revolt because lack of job, of money and freedom.
What religion has to do with that only Santa knows.
You are full of bull mate.
It is true that religious (forget about spiritual which you haven't got a clue about) dogmas lead to the........ suppression of rights and freedoms in favor of centralized power and control.......but what about
countries that are not motivated by religious dogmas and the situation is as bad as in countries dominated by religious dogmas?
Look at Latin America, most of Asia and Africa?
In these countries people also live in the sewer and yet religions have no or little influence so although
religion play a role in the Arab countries the main reason that people revolt is mainly lack of jobs, money and freedom.
As far as people could get a decent job and have enough money to live they wouldn't care less whether the ruler is an Aiatollah or any atheist Dick or Tom.
(August 10, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Tonus Wrote:Little Rik Wrote:Not being dead allows you to advance but allow doesn't mean that you advance.Correct. It makes progress possible, and therefore is a sign of progress in itself. Pretending that losing the option to advance is meaningless is so bizarre that the only reason to do so is because you don't want to admit you were wrong.
Wrong again Ton.
Being on your feet on safe land doesn't mean anything.
Here in Australia we got enough jobs to employ everybody but too many people don't want to work
and live on the dole on taxpayer money of course.
The opportunities are there for everybody and advancement is possible for everybody but some people
are not interested so it doesn't mean that you can progress even if the opportunities are there.
(August 10, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Tonus Wrote:Little Rik Wrote:The reason why i am telling you that you got big expectation is because you pretend to have physical evidence of something that is abstract and not physical.We've been through this. You admit you have no way to prove what you are claiming, and I am pointing out that this means your claims are worthless. Why you continue to make claims that you know are worthless is beyond me, but repeating them does not make them any less so.
Wrong again Ton.
I never said that....i have no way to prove what i am claiming.......
I instead said that physical evidence about something that is not physical is an absurd idea.
That doesn't mean that you can not get plenty of evidence provided that you deal with spirituality.
Cosmic consciousness is a spiritual concept therefore if you want to know whether it is real or not you got to deal with the same abstract item not with something physical-material.
(August 10, 2015 at 1:51 pm)Tonus Wrote:Little Rik Wrote:I said that the official statistics do not take into account the real happening but only what goes on mainly in the western countries.No, that isn't what you said. You accepted statistics and numbers until they did not support your claims, then you decided that statistics can't be trusted because some man-on-the-street in a third-world country knows better. That's stupid. It's a sign of how desperate you are to hold onto your worldview. Keep this in mind the next time you try to mention statistics.
Not at all Ton.
We were talking about medical statistics not statistics in general.
Some statistics are correct while many other are not.
I usually stick with the issue while you put all sort of things in the same pot
making in this way an inedible soup.