(January 10, 2015 at 12:42 pm)IATIA Wrote: I tend to be short and quick...This was not a (wiser) parable, it is just a (more human) joke. Most of my religious friends (very, very few, 5 in total?) feel in the joke that God is NOT offering assistance but we as men can help eachother in a very restricted way : we will all die, some of us will have cancer, accidents or die 'naturally'.
Ultimately, what this parable is saying, is that we can never know when god is offering assistance..."
The person that died, believed in a god offering assistance. WE laugh at him this way (i do not think God is placed somewhere to have even a smile or an advisiv role, otherwise we reflect a human to something as God; for me he does not even have to exist, sometimes i just believe what i felt as a child. Sometimes moslims ask me 'when did you convert?' and then i answer: I cannot convert, that would be a total lie, sometimes i feel the same as moslims do describe or what is told in some books. Eg. when a (military dangerous) Jew asked Mohammed: "What is that about your God 'Allah', is he another one that that of 'ours' or that of the christians". We cannot see if the answer of Mohammed was true of heart or under fear for war, but he should have answered: "No, we all have the same God".
That is exactly what i feel since i died: "If there is a God or if there are Gods, it must be 'all the same'. But it cannot be what results as thoughts out of our mind. For me it is not essential anymore for the moment i will die, but perhaps (perhaps now!) it seems to be that i can use it for living faster, deeper and knowing things that would to many lifeyears to find myself on my own out. Why would those millions of ancesters be totally wrong? Are we smarter then them or do we think more 'in chains'? I fear, the more materia and techniques we have and know, the more we think and talk 'chained' and arrogant. NOT free, not modest.
Perhaps we are a part of one 'human construction in our thoughts' that can be called God that contains 'good' and which can be 'bad' at the same time for others. In the beginning there was logos (the word). In the end there will be no words. Perhaps I have to write this booklet with these words to express what i cannot express either?
Do you believe in God? What the hell is God? How would i know? Will i believe tomorrow in God? Did i ever believe in God and why did i?
Do you feel a God? And afterwards, do you feel that feeling fade away again? I lost some 10 years my believe and then found it back, exactly the same way as if i 'just' had believed what was in some holy books (they can be contradictory also, i do not want to lie about this). So with 10 years 'lost of time' i became a very strong believer via my atheism. Nevertheless I staid also a nihilist and gave sence to my live because that is also the result of being very deeply a nihilist (if there is no sence, we become a sort of God that can give ourselves sence to our lives).
Sorry, it is becoming a large poll instead of a quicky.
Mea minima culpa... +je
1. If i step backwards, i am preparing to jump.
2. If you will not do it, i will.
3. I have never met a person who does not believe (in some...thing)
2. If you will not do it, i will.
3. I have never met a person who does not believe (in some...thing)