(January 22, 2015 at 1:15 pm)VAN BELLE Jean Marc Wrote: Thank you Whateverist, for sending me an email to [email protected] to get back (each quarter i 'earn' money with making declarations of VAT and taxes, i started as accountant in 1983, then changed it in because i thought it would be replaced by computers for something like programming, assembling and EDP, than became a sort of 'lawyer' (a non lying one, so i am not an official lawyer), and would like to become an official clinical psychologist, Master at UGent or somewhere else, i do not yet know the next 10 years). I will try to answer all your questions above, but all of them seem true:
Chas: "believe nonsense to reject it" Nonsense comes from 'sense > no sense'. First we sense things with our middle mammal brains (250 mio years old middle brain and our even older body) brains but then we 'decide' with our 'human' brains (more recent, i presume they are for 100% also mammal, even with our languagepossibility that moves our mouth and tongue) whether they can be 'used' or are 'sensefull'. It seems like you say we have to accept a sense or reject it. You take the 'position' that 'believe in God' or 'believe in a god' is nonsens. If you really do that, why would you then change your mind sometimes in other opinions? I think you have to step over the borther to come to me or other believers to talk a lot more about it and the result can be then that 1. "you do not reject in anymore and understand the other better" 2. "you still reject it and even stronger if you listened very well and you had someone with a really stupid belief, there a lot of them, see Robvalue's topic) 3. "the other one begins to reject his belief because he follows you 4. "the other one gets fundamentalistic..."
In all of 4 cases, i think there is progress (or degress or backgress, i create words here, but i presume you can follow). Believing is "not rejecting even when you have a reason to". Again: this is MY opinion, other believers have other beliefs, even all non believers here have... (sorry, i like to get you a little bit upset) different beliefs or points of views at least (a believer is not another believer, a non believer does not equal another non believer).
I'm afraid I couldn't figure out what you are trying to say.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.