RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
May 14, 2015 at 7:29 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2015 at 7:33 am by Whateverist.)
(May 10, 2015 at 2:23 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 9, 2015 at 12:25 pm)whateverist Wrote: To me though it just seems that the only useful path to take if discussing gods is verifying what is meant by them. I can attach meaning but very rarely will it coincide with anyone else's meaning. I assume gods are not literal beings but imagined beings which represent the projection of something deep in the mind.
Aren't we all projections of someone else's imagination? Do you have a precise definition of who your wife is? Of who I am? Of other people on the forum? It's all projections with fuzzy boundaries. Communication depends on common understandings, but these understandings need not be all that precise. The boundaries that make up the description of an agent include some intangibles and imprecision. They are images in process. And I doubt many theists have thought about it as something abstract; to them it is just another universal, like 'chair' or 'concept'. We understand these things in the intuition first, and the forebrain second.
That you and my wife actually say and do things that are part of the consensual reality that other alleged agents in the vicinity acknowledge give you both a huge advantage over the will o-the wisp which 'god' is supposed to refer to. As to who I am, I admit it isn't a slam dunk. It becomes downright murky if I try to examine it in the third person. So I prefer to just claim it in the first person. But then being is an art, not a science.
(May 14, 2015 at 2:37 am)ignoramus Wrote: God is real. As real as any other real sensation.
Just not outside the human mind!
Ah but Rikky has training from a special-teacher-guy. He can find meaning both inside and out of his mind.