Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[Little Rik]

The brain is made of matter and the matter can not possibly build up the consciousness mind.

How about providing some reasoning for this instead of just flopping out a baseless assertion.

After a million or so of years that human beings exist nobody so far has ever managed to get some sort of mind out of matter.
Cells do have some sort of consciousness but they need a bigger mind in which to merge in order to keep what they got and to expand.
By themselves they could not do much.
It is important to understand that cells are a combination of matter and undeveloped mind.
In the cells that compose the body the matter will last a short period but the mind in the cells will not die. 
If you keep on believing that there is no distinction between matter and consciousness i am afraid that you still have a long long way to go
before you understand how the whole system works. 

The two as far as the body is alive are connected to each other as the driver and the car would
allow the vehicle to move so so far one can not do anything without the other.

How are the mind and brain connected?

The brain made of matter could not function without a mind unless you are a zombie.
From here you can understand that two elements are necessary to make them function.
And when two elements work as one there is a connection. 

Does this means that when the vehicle rot down also the driver rot down?

So, from your point of view, is dementia an example of the driver rotting while the car remains intact?

You are making a hell of a confusion.
The first saying...........Does this means that when the vehicle rot down also the driver rot down?
refer to when your body die.
In this case the consciousness is still alive.
In your saying instead the body doesn't die.
Here the situation is different.
In dementia both body-brain and consciousness are damaged.
At this stage so far nobody die but both elements are in a dire situation.
The body-brain will eventually die.
The consciousness is immortal so will not die (according to my believes) but will loose in power so to speak.
Suppose that particular consciousness belong to an intelligent person.
By doing the wrong thing (maybe eating saturated fat) not only his body will suffer but because an action produce a reaction also
his consciousness will loose in power so in the next life that person may be reborn into a carnivorous animal that like saturated fat (meat).

---

The brain is not a car of course but nevertheless is a vehicle.
A vehicle that carry a passenger.

Do you have any actual evidence that consciousness is the passenger rather than the vehicle? (Aside from NDEs, see below, and unverified claims about piercing rituals.)

Consciousness is something abstract while the vehicle is something made of matter.
Have you ever seen the matter from moving by itself?
Have you ever seen a stone jumping around?
Are you serious yogini? 

The atheistic idea that the consciousness mind is a product of the brain will
have sooner or later be smashed in pieces.

It's fine to speculate, just as I can speculate that it will not.  Do you have any reason, besides sheer belief, that you think it will be?

Have you ever seen a stone or any piece of matter pop up and do something?
Some idiot scientists keep on guessing and some even more idiot people believe what these scientists say
but so far they still have to come up with any solid evidence that the matter can generate consciousness.
While they still bang their heads on the wall        i believe what make more sense which is that the conscious mind produce or better say
introduce herself into a medium (body-brain) that will suit it most.

The human being build up the vehicle not the other way around.
The brain is made of matter and the matter can not possibly build up the consciousness mind.

Now you're just engaging in an argument from ignorance.  How do you know that it "can not possibly" build up the conscious mind.  Try answering without resorting to vapid analogies about cars and such.

Have you ever seen a vehicle that has not been created by a mind?   

The two as far as the body is alive are connected to each other as the driver and the car would
allow the vehicle to move so so far one can not do anything without the other.
Does this means that when the vehicle rot down also the driver rot down?
What would you do when your car fail?
Would you fail and die with your car?
You never thought about it guys, did you?

You keep saying that, but I'm sure most of us have had such thoughts.  Is that phrase from your Ananda Marga handbook?
Regardless, what evidence do you have that the brain and consciousness are not the same thing?

The consciousness is something abstract while the brain is pure matter.
If the consciousness would be the brain the brain would be abstract or if the brain would 
be the consciousness mind the mind would be made of matter.
Have you ever seen something abstract turning into matter or the other way around?
Suppose you think of a lion.
Do you think this lion would be real?
Or suppose you see a real lion in front of you.
Just imaging how nice would be if the lion would be abstract so he wouldn't eat you alive.
Yogini, please try to be a bit more careful before you ask these sort of silly questions. 

All you will do is leave your rotting car and buy a new car in order to carry on toward the goal.
This has already been experiences by thousand of NDEs beside be part of billion of people who believe in reincarnation.

The International Association for Near-Death Studies sent out a questionnaire in 1992 inquiring about those who considered themselves to be near-death experiencers.  How close had they been to physical death when their episode occurred? ... 37 percent had theirs in a setting unrelated to anything that could be construed as life threatening. ... The 37 percenters claimed to have experiences every bit as real, involved, and life-changing as those that happened to people during death or close-brush-with-death crises; and their reports duplicate or parallel the same spread of scenario types and a pattern of psychological and physiological aftereffects.

— P.M.H. Atwater, The Big Book of Near-Death Experiences

If a third of those NDE experiencers weren't anywhere near death, it cuts the link between NDEs and death.  Your evidence is worth squat.

Everybody is different so everybody will experience different things under the circumstances.
Some people think that they had a real NDEs when in reality was just some sort of allucination.
Atwater can not possibly read in people mind and understand what is a real NDE and what is not.
She only collect statistics based on what people tell her.
If she could read in people mind she would be God.

I am afraid that as soon as physical science will work together with intuitional science and will find out that the brain is a 
product of the consciousness mind all atheistic ideas will be shredded in pieces. 

[quote pid='957960' dateline='1433430741']
Your proof and your evidence are always "someplace else" aren't they?  You know what they say: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.  If your speculations were based on something solid, that would be different, but all we get from you are analogies, empty claims, and speculations about "the future."  Where's your bird in the hand, Rik?

My experiences based on hard mental-spiritual work make the vision clear compared to the vision of people who believe what some researchers say.
These researchers just guess and you take these researchers studies for granted.
How it is possible for researchers that study physical science come up with conclusions related to non physical matters? 
You never thought about it, yogini, didn't you?