(June 5, 2015 at 5:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(June 5, 2015 at 9:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: My experiences based on hard mental-spiritual work make the vision clear compared to the vision of people who believe what some researchers say.
These researchers just guess and you take these researchers studies for granted.
How it is possible for researchers that study physical science come up with conclusions related to non physical matters?
You never thought about it, yogini, didn't you?
Quote:You're all bush and no bird, Rik. I ask you for evidence and all you return are empty assertions.
We have evidence from brain surgeries and brain injuries that the bulk of our conscious experiences can be altered by altering the physical brain. What's more, similar traumas result in similar changes. The changes observed cover a spectrum of mental behaviors which strongly implies that all mental behaviors likely have a physical source in the brain. This is not mere guesswork. We also have evidence from animal studies, directly probing the brain and nervous system. This is the accumulation of multiple lines of evidence about the role of the brain in the creation of mental phenomena. It is not completely conclusive, but it isn't solely the work of 'guesses'. It is the conclusion of many independent studies of neurological disorders and human psychophysiology.
You don't get it yogini, do you?
We are stuck inside a body and we can only get out this body when we die.
If the vehicle don't go properly or the driver doesn't do the right thing they all suffer.
If the vehicle is not good that is too bad for the driver and if the driver is not good is
too bad for the vehicle so no wonder that this and other studies show a connection
among brain and mind.
You may think that brain and mind are one but it is only the fact that they are
INSEPARABLY connected (until death come) that they look like one.
Sorry yog. Wrong again.
Quote:We’ve Put a Worm’s Mind in a Lego Robot's Body
A wheeled Lego robot may not look like a worm, but it "thinks" like one after programmers gave it the neuron connections in a C. elegans roundworm
If the brain is a collection of electrical signals, then, if you could catalog all those those signals digitally, you might be able upload your brain into a computer, thus achieving digital immortality.
While the plausibility—and ethics—of this upload for humans can be debated, some people are forging ahead in the field of whole-brain emulation. There are massive efforts to map the connectome—all the connections in the brain—and to understand how we think. Simulating brains could lead us to better robots and artificial intelligence, but the first steps need to be simple.
So, one group of scientists started with the roundworm Caenorhabditis elegans, a critter whose genes and simple nervous system we know intimately.
The OpenWorm project has mapped the connections between the worm’s 302 neurons and simulated them in software. (The project’s ultimate goal is to completely simulate C. elegans as a virtual organism.) Recently, they put that software program in a simple Lego robot.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news...99/?no-ist
It's been done, Rik. The mind of a worm, simulated, and put inside a lego robot. It behaved just like a worm. So much for your claim that matter can't organize movement by itself.
Quote:...But the behavior is impressive considering that no instructions were programmed into this robot. All it has is a network of connections mimicking those in the brain of a worm.
Wait a minute.
First you argue that the matter CAN organize movements by itself and then you clearly say that it is because ....... The mind of a worm, simulated, and put inside a lego robot....
Where is the logic?
Here we go back to square 1.
Just as i already said that we need both mind and matter to do something.
Sorry yog. Fail again.