RE: Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?
June 13, 2015 at 10:23 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2015 at 10:24 am by Tonus.)
(June 13, 2015 at 10:03 am)Little Rik Wrote: I do the same Ton that is why i don't believe that we got something for free.And the basis of this belief is... ???
That is my point. Without a reasonable basis, your belief is a shot in the dark, and just as valid as any other such belief. Which is to say, not valid. Just like you told Apo that the sun's energy isn't free because the "sun is the result from previous forms of material lives." You can't prove this, you can only state it and claim belief. But it's not a valid basis for deciding that the mind is 'given to us for free.' You can't even provide a valid basis for your belief that the mind is 'given' to us at all. And I can only imagine what sort of lunacy you'll come up with to support your implication that nothing is ever given freely. If you need to layer one supposition after another to get to a particular statement, then that statement is useless until it is tested free of those suppositions (or until the suppositions are made valid through testing). Otherwise your beliefs are no different than what a child might make up while playing with his toys.
Prediction: You'll respond to this with more baseless assertions.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould