(June 19, 2015 at 8:00 am)Tonus Wrote:(June 18, 2015 at 6:02 am)Little Rik Wrote: As far as you or anyone else keep on stating something that is not backed up by solid evidence then i will have to reinstate the obvious
which is...............gimma the evidence mate.
Quote:As I said, read the preceding pages. We have discussed this.
If we have already discussed this why you keep on saying that the consciousness is a product of the brain?
Little Rik Wrote:Sorry Ton but that is no evidence at all.
Quote:On the contrary, it's exactly the evidence you keep requesting. The ability to induce NDEs and study the effects allows us to understand how and why they happen. Hint-- no spirit worlds so far. That's pretty important.
We also can induce a feeling as if we are in paradise by taking drugs.
That doesn't mean that paradise doesn't exist.
You see how confused you are?
Little Rik Wrote:What rational approach?
Don't be ridiculous Ton.
There is nothing rational in your view.
Quote:Again, just because you claim this doesn't make it true. You can continue to mention NDE experiences and ignore the evidence that NDEs are yet another function of the brain, but that doesn't matter. Your intransigence only matters to the extent that it keeps you ignorant, and in this case willfully so. But to anyone interested in actually reaching the truth of the matter, you're a dead end.
If you got any evidence that NDEs are bull then show this evidence.
Little Rik Wrote:So you say that your biology books tell the truth and the NDEs are rubbish?
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No, biology books tell the current facts and understanding about evolution. You are the one trying to tie spiritual souls to evolution, even though you don't know anything about evolution. Being deliberately ignorant in order to continue to support a belief system is just another way the human mind functions (sports fanaticism and extreme political views are good examples of this). I'm pointing this out to you so that you no longer have an excuse for clinging to your views. You will cling to them anyway, but not for lack of knowledge anymore.
Oh, please Ton don't talk about ignorant.
You build up in your mind that physical science got it right
but when i did asked you whether these researchers die and then came back to life
so they could tell whether there is God or not you don't reply.
Ton this is the only evidence, all the rest is just guessing.
The sooner you get this in your mind the sooner you will get out the mental sewer
in which you lie.
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