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Does Atheism make sense?
23rd December 2011, 00:10
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RE: Does Atheism make sense?
The key word you used was "shit" Wink
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23rd December 2011, 00:12
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RE: Does Atheism make sense?
(22nd December 2011 23:28)Jaysyn Wrote:  
(22nd December 2011 22:42)padraic Wrote:  
(21st December 2011 03:20)Stimbo Wrote:  The bible can have many uses. All those nice, soft, absorbent pages.



Yes ,but far too thin for toilet paper.However, they make excellent paper for spliffs.

The ink however, doesn't.

Yes, I'd forgotten it was full of shit already. How about presoiled toilet paper for those days when one is too busy to go for their own shit?
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
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Spending your life waiting for the messiah to come and save the world is like waiting around for the straight piece to come in Tetris. Even if it comes, by that time you've accumulated a mountain of shit so high that you're fucked no matter what you do.

Remember, if we don't sin, poor old Jesus died for nothing.
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23rd December 2011, 00:23 (This post was last modified: 23rd December 2011 00:24 by The_Flying_Skeptic.)
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RE: Does Atheism make sense?
I don't get the 'largest' part either. Geographically? or demographically? I wonder what percentage of the world population is Christian anyway. It ranks number one with 2200 million followers just behind Islam which has 1300 million followers (wikipedia). These stats have no bearing on truth.
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23rd December 2011, 00:36
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True. If we import "densest" as the operating adjective, jiminez could qualify for countryhood.
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24th December 2011, 03:20
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For a response to your argument, why don't you take a look at my signature.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."

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24th December 2011, 03:46
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RE: Does Atheism make sense?
There's a reason why arguments for Christianity are stupid. They don't actually exist. If an argument is illogical it's not actually valid or worth listening to, in my opinion. Come on man! Think about it! Read the Bible and tell me you would believe it if someone on the street came up to you and told you those stories randomly! Use your brain, you have one!
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8th January 2012, 02:48
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(24th December 2011 03:20)AthiestAtheist Wrote:  For a response to your argument, why don't you take a look at my signature.

Slavery was a huge theme in the bible. Of course, im sure you dont choose to read the passages that command slave masters to be generous in every way. The bible also commands the slaves to be obedient to their good masters. If everyone did as the bible instructed; slavery would not have turned into the ugly thing that it is known as today.
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8th January 2012, 02:53
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RE: Does Atheism make sense?
(8th January 2012 02:48)organiccornflake Wrote:  Slavery was a huge theme in the bible. Of course, im sure you dont choose to read the passages that command slave masters to be generous in every way. The bible also commands the slaves to be obedient to their good masters. If everyone did as the bible instructed; slavery would not have turned into the ugly thing that it is known as today.

As I discussed with another unfortunate theist, this isn't quite true.
You see, the bible only says to treat certain slaves well - family and the children of israel pretty much. It doesn't say much on the rest other than make sure they don't die on the same day as whatever you did to them that could cause death and don't maim them in certain ways.

It's otherwise okay to take, rape, or do whatever else to slaves.
Slavery (and rape) have been discussed here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-3207.html
I didn't really enter the fray until about the 14th page, but I back all my claims up biblically.
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Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

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8th January 2012, 02:59 (This post was last modified: 8th January 2012 02:59 by Stimbo.)
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RE: Does Atheism make sense?
It really makes no difference if there are bits that tell slave owners to be nice. The mere fact that slavery - the ownership of a human being by another as property - isn't condemned as immoral in the book that is held up as a standard for morality is obscene.
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Spending your life waiting for the messiah to come and save the world is like waiting around for the straight piece to come in Tetris. Even if it comes, by that time you've accumulated a mountain of shit so high that you're fucked no matter what you do.

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8th January 2012, 04:19 (This post was last modified: 8th January 2012 04:20 by organiccornflake.)
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Thank you TheDarkestOfAngels and Stimbo, you are the first people to show some form of civility, you represent your belief well.
Now time for my response.
Response to TDOA: It is reasonable to be assumed that the slave laws for the Jewish to be applied to every slave. The bible simply just referred to the Jews because they were the biggest example going on at the time.

Response to Stimbo: The bible just promotes the importance of authority and a chain-of-command. "Slave" is a very subjective and relative term. The lesson is that leaders shouldnt abuse their power, and followers should obey.
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