11 reasons god doesn't exist.

[frankiej]

I agree with little Napoleon on this one.

[DeistPaladin]

(14th January 2012 13:33)Braveheart Wrote:  The only way we can know if god exists, is to perhaps drown a member of the forum..? Then revive them swiftly using defibrilators. Then they may come back on here and prove us all right/wrong! However, this would still only be a first person experience, as you can't take a camera into death with you. ):

My question now is... Who's going to volunteer to be drowned?

Theoretically, if there was an afterlife to experience, you wouldn't remember it anyway because memory is stored in the brain which becomes non-functional in death. You couldn't remember your existence in this life nor could you carry any memory of that on coming back to this world.

But if souls do carry memory independent of the brain, why can't this be done with people who have Alzheimer's, amnesia or just too much to drink the night before?

[Napoléon]

You had to go one better didn't you Paladin!

[DeistPaladin]

(14th January 2012 17:04)Napo Wrote:  You had to go one better didn't you Paladin!

Sorry, I'm compulsively analytical, even for things presented tongue-in-cheek. And I think I'll channel Monte Python and say "It's nothing I can help you see, otherwise I'm perfectly normal".

[frankiej]

(14th January 2012 16:53)DeistPaladin Wrote:  or just too much to drink the night before?

Did you not know that heavy drinking damages the soul?

[Braveheart]

(14th January 2012 16:53)DeistPaladin Wrote:  Theoretically, if there was an afterlife to experience, you wouldn't remember it anyway because memory is stored in the brain which becomes non-functional in death. You couldn't remember your existence in this life nor could you carry any memory of that on coming back to this world.

But if souls do carry memory independent of the brain, why can't this be done with people who have Alzheimer's, amnesia or just too much to drink the night before?

I guess so, I never put much thought into it. So we really will never know until we're 100% dead.

[Cthulhu Dreaming]

You won't know then either, on account of being dead.

[Rhythm]

One does wonder why there is so much redundancy in biological machinery as it pertains to consciousness and perception, if it has it's seat in an eternal/immortal/indestructable "soul". Why eyes if spirits can see? Why ears if spirits can hear? Why nerves if spirits can experience sensation, why brains if spirits can have memory....or control all of the above...etc etc etc? Why is it, also, that our "souls" cannot compensate and provide experience of these things when we lose function in any of this machinery?

[Napoléon]

Cuz it's bullshit. Next question.

[dloubet]

You can only disprove a god if its description provides a handle. For instance, if the description of a god clearly states that it does not lie, and a follower can drink any poison without ill effect, that claim can be tested. If the follower does suffer ill effects, then the specific god described does not exist. Another different god may still exist, but the specific one described has been disproved. It would be safe to say that the god described by the poisoned follower does not exist. Only a god that departs from that specific description in some way can possibly exist.