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An atheist victory?
#21
RE: An atheist victory?
(January 14, 2012 at 7:24 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: In my area when a church building has been converted (excuse the pun) into a community center it means that the church outgrew the building and had to move.
That happened to one of the other churches, except it became a different church. That's not what happened to this one, it didn't move, just closed.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."

-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife
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#22
RE: An atheist victory?
Meanwhile, school multipurpose rooms are being converted to churches. Demographics change. And coincidentally, three of the four polling places in my area happen to be active churches. The church just wants to show support for its country.
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#23
RE: An atheist victory?
(January 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm)Undeceived Wrote: The church just wants to show support for control its country.

Fixed that for you.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#24
RE: An atheist victory?
(January 16, 2012 at 5:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(January 16, 2012 at 5:25 pm)Undeceived Wrote: The church just wants to show support for control its country.
Fixed that for you.
Ayup.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."

-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife
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#25
RE: An atheist victory?
America is governed by majorities, making the most number of people happy. If any part is 'controlled' by the church, it's really only the religious group behind it, like any other activist group (i.e. gays, tea-partiers). There's no higher authority that stands to gain any power whatsoever.

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#26
RE: An atheist victory?
Round my way, some years ago, an old church building was converted into a sort of mini retail and conference centre, complete with café. The actual structure of the building was kept intact, which was nice because the architecture is rather interesting. Mind you, the only retailing going on in there has to do with candles, crucifix jewellery and god-squad books, so not much of a change of use really.

On the other hand, what used to be an art shop was recently turned into a church for these idiots. I do hope it's not the start of a trend.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#27
RE: An atheist victory?
Stimbo Wrote:an art shop was recently turned into a church for these idiots. I do hope it's not the start of a trend.

Hmm.... shades of Hillsong?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#28
RE: An atheist victory?
(January 16, 2012 at 10:13 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
Stimbo Wrote:an art shop was recently turned into a church for these idiots. I do hope it's not the start of a trend.

Hmm.... shades of Hillsong?

I think I'm regretting I ever googled that:

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"Chill out! God's up to something." @RayBevan

Plus they appear to have pinched the Hoover logo.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#29
RE: An atheist victory?
The Hillsong church? Try living near it... Hmph
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#30
RE: An atheist victory?
Thankfully I live a comfortable distance away from our lot. Walking distance, if I care to walk in that direction.
Actually, if you'll indulge me on the subject of local church groups, there is another one about the same distance in the opposite direction to the new lot under the banner of the New Testament Church of God or somesuch. A few years ago they set up a charity food thing for low-income local families, basically they got hold of unsold (though still legal) food from Marks and Spencer which otherwise would have been thrown out and people would turn up once a fortnight or so and help themselves. At first it was a great idea; we - ie Sam and me - could stock our fridge/freezer with enough food for two and it took a big load off our limited budget. Plus we got quite friendly with the church volunteers, who simply got on with the job without any preaching etc.

Anyway, as their first anniversary of this project rolled round, I got chatting to a couple of them and happened to mention, casually, that they ought to do something a bit special and they jumped at the idea. I just thought it'd be some kind of buffet thing with music and whatnot. I physically kicked myself when on the day they launched into full gospel mode, steel band, testifying, praying, the lot. After that the rot seemed to spread, slowly but inexorably: we were allowed to sit inside to await our turn at the food, instead of queueing outside as before, and they 'entertained' us with xtian rock and videos projected from their laptop. I finally drew the line when I saw, on the screen, the name Kirk Cameron appear in the opening titles of Left Behind. From then on, I would wait outside while Sam sorted out the food... which, let's be honest, was all the project was set up for in the first place.

(Of course, the situation being what it is, I haven't had any connection with them since the funeral. I haven't missed them.)

Anyway, thank you for your indulgence and patience.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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