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The Secret:
6th July 2009, 13:27
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RE: The Secret:
(6th July 2009 12:01)padraic Wrote:  I first came across the "Law of Attraction" in 1969 in a book called "Bing Out the Magic Of Your Mind' by Al Koran,a stage magician.

Quote:Latterly "You'll See It When You Believe it" by Dr Wayne Dyer"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Dyer

I've actually read both of those books...which I find to be semi-worrying (or rather, "Sad" lol), meh, any information is still information tho. You can learn from bullshit too (in other words you learn to be more skeptical of such shit, because it's bullshit. But as I always think "You can learn from anything").

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Feeling authentically humbled rather than underminingly humiliated: just the way I like it.

I feel that *I* am nothing special, but that feeling itself feels very special indeed.

Dan Dennett Wrote:There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.

(19th August 2013 06:00)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:  Don't be so afraid of death that you forget to live.

It actually is the thought(s) that counts after all.
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7th July 2009, 01:54 (This post was last modified: 7th July 2009 01:56 by padraic.)
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RE: The Secret:
@KYU

Quote:Are there any? Serious question.

Yes,a few. I think Laura Huxley's "YOU Are Not The Target" falls into that category.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Huxley

The book does not contain any theory. Rather,it is divided into sections of instructions for a series of Gestalt exercises. I've tried most of them and found they work.


Gestalt psychology is not exactly mainstream,so I post the information below in case you are not familiar.


Quote:Gestalt psychology or gestaltism (German: Gestalt - "shape" or "figure") of the Berlin School is a theory of mind and brain positing that the operational principle of the brain is holistic, parallel, and analog, with self-organizing tendencies, or that the whole is different from the sum of its parts. The Gestalt effect refers to the form-forming capability of our senses, particularly with respect to the visual recognition of figures and whole forms instead of just a collection of simple lines and curves. In psychology, gestaltism is often opposed to structuralism and Wundt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestalt_psychology



Quote:Gestalt therapy is an existential and experiential psychotherapy that focuses on the individual's experience in the present moment, the therapist-client relationship, the environmental and social contexts in which these things take place, and the self-regulating adjustments people make as a result of the overall situation. It emphasizes personal responsibility. Gestalt therapy was co-founded by Fritz Perls, Laura Perls and Paul Goodman in the 1940s–1950s.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestalt_therapy
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13th August 2009, 13:35
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Quote:Gestalt psychology or gestaltism (German: Gestalt - "shape" or "figure") of the Berlin School is a theory of mind and brain positing that the operational principle of the brain is holistic, parallel, and analog, with self-organizing tendencies, or that the whole is different from the sum of its parts. The Gestalt effect refers to the form-forming capability of our senses, particularly with respect to the visual recognition of figures and whole forms instead of just a collection of simple lines and curves. In psychology, gestaltism is often opposed to structuralism and Wundt.

That doesn't mean anything, the entire fucking sentence, it doesn't mean anything at all!

Psychobabble fucking quacks.
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14th August 2009, 01:31 (This post was last modified: 14th August 2009 01:33 by padraic.)
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Quote:That doesn't mean anything, the entire fucking sentence, it doesn't mean anything at all!


Argument from personal incredulity (a form of argument from ignorance): " I don't understand it so it's bullshit"

It makes sense to me. But then I've actually tried some Gestalt techniques.They work.
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15th August 2009, 02:27
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RE: The Secret:
(14th August 2009 01:31)padraic Wrote:  
Quote:That doesn't mean anything, the entire fucking sentence, it doesn't mean anything at all!


Argument from personal incredulity (a form of argument from ignorance): " I don't understand it so it's bullshit"

It makes sense to me. But then I've actually tried some Gestalt techniques.They work.

I didn't say it didn't make sense. I said it doesn't mean anything.
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15th August 2009, 04:18
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RE: The Secret:
You mean...it doesn't mean anything to you? (as opposed to not at all and to no one).

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Feeling authentically humbled rather than underminingly humiliated: just the way I like it.

I feel that *I* am nothing special, but that feeling itself feels very special indeed.

Dan Dennett Wrote:There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.

(19th August 2013 06:00)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:  Don't be so afraid of death that you forget to live.

It actually is the thought(s) that counts after all.
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16th August 2009, 10:23 (This post was last modified: 16th August 2009 10:24 by Retorth.)
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RE: The Secret:
I had a look at the video and I gotta say, while very intriguing, the whole concept of the law of attraction, I still firmly believe that if you want success financially, career and relationship-wise, you have to work your ass off. Big Grin
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16th August 2009, 14:59
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RE: The Secret:
It's a load of bollocks because:
1. It has no evidence 2.
I've tried it, it's a load of shite, and it fucked me over.

'2.' is personal experience I just wanted to share. '1.' is the reason why there's no reason to believe it, IOW - the important bit.

EvF
Feeling authentically humbled rather than underminingly humiliated: just the way I like it.

I feel that *I* am nothing special, but that feeling itself feels very special indeed.

Dan Dennett Wrote:There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.

(19th August 2013 06:00)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:  Don't be so afraid of death that you forget to live.

It actually is the thought(s) that counts after all.
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