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Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
#31
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
(February 27, 2012 at 1:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(February 27, 2012 at 12:00 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: At risk of death? By the way, how do you identify a homosexual in a not-homo friendly country?
You don't, unless they're really pushing it. They'll just apply for asylum, and some western country will grant it to them, perhaps it won't.

You didn't read the article at all did you..lol. Yes, at risk of imprisonment or death (maybe even more so for daring to enlist the help of foreigners). You identify them by pointing, I mean, you don't actually have to prove they're gay or anything, pointing will usually suffice..lol. Maybe some homosexuals don't want to be driven out of their homeland (that they love dearly), and would rather stay and put up some sort of resistance to their country becoming a backwards shithole (also known as "paradise" to you, on this specific issue).

I don't have to, as I know the issue.
And well, it's an old topic as far as I remember.

Quote:also known as "paradise" to you, on this specific issue
I don't know why you insist on personal attacks, but I rather stay off your off topic remarks for now.
Quote:Yes, at risk of imprisonment or death (maybe even more so for daring to enlist the help of foreigners).
I know all that. Besides, enlisting the help of foreigners shouldn't be that hard, maybe NATO can help ugandan homosexuals by giving them firearms to have their own spring, eh?
Quote:You identify them by pointing, I mean, you don't actually have to prove they're gay or anything, pointing will usually suffice..lol.
Oh. And I guess you received this information from your agents in Uganda, who keep you updated on this issue 24/7.
Quote:and would rather stay and put up some sort of resistance to their country becoming a backwards shithole
Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, Uganda has always been a backwards shithole. And as for resistance, the NATO is always happy to bless other, backwards countries with some democracy for a change, so they should be happy to oblige the gays of Uganda. And I think that even if the bill goes through, nothing will happen. Homosexuality is already punishable by death in various other countries, with Saudi Arabia, a close US ally, amongst them.

What I tried to touch on this subject was to see if people really care about something as they think they do.
I personally don't think that you do.
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#32
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
(February 27, 2012 at 6:58 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I don't have to, as I know the issue.
And well, it's an old topic as far as I remember.
Yeah I thought so too, I hadn't heard about it in awhile and so I assumed that people had regained their sanity.

Quote:I know all that. Besides, enlisting the help of foreigners shouldn't be that hard, maybe NATO can help ugandan homosexuals by giving them firearms to have their own spring, eh?
I'd hand em the guns myself, not like I haven't been in that business Mehm. But why should they need them?

Quote:Oh. And I guess you received this information from your agents in Uganda, who keep you updated on this issue 24/7.
No, lol, no. That's just how witchhunts go, I'm assuming that history will repeat itself.

Quote:Sorry, but as far as I'm concerned, Uganda has always been a backwards shithole. And as for resistance, the NATO is always happy to bless other, backwards countries with some democracy for a change, so they should be happy to oblige the gays of Uganda. And I think that even if the bill goes through, nothing will happen. Homosexuality is already punishable by death in various other countries, with Saudi Arabia, a close US ally, amongst them.
Ah, but at least it's their backwards shithole, and I doubt they see it as such. In the same way that you don't see your own country as a backward shithole when your descriptions of it make it sound very much like a shithole to me (my own experiences in your country being the only reason I don't think it's as much of a shithole as you claim)

Quote:What I tried to touch on this subject was to see if people really care about something as they think they do.
I personally don't think that you do.

Oh, was that what you were trying to do? Well, fuck off mind-reader (and practice your craft because so far you're getting misses, not hits).



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#33
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
Quote:Yeah I thought so too, I hadn't heard about it in awhile and so I assumed that people had regained their sanity.
I just didn't think of it no further, as it's not really my problem to begin with.
Quote:I'd hand em the guns myself, not like I haven't been in that business Mehm. But why should they need them?
Well, why did the people in Libya need the guns?
Quote:No, lol, no. That's just how witchhunts go, I'm assuming that history will repeat itself.
Well, it looks like it won't be an ordinary witch hunt as it's being put into the law itself.
Quote:Ah, but at least it's their backwards shithole, and I doubt they see it as such.
You doubt? Well, with people in Africa, I don't think that you have to doubt. They simply can't do anything about it. And I'm fairly certain that gays are the least of the problems that the people have in Uganda to care about them.
Quote: In the same way that you don't see your own country as a backward shithole when your descriptions of it make it sound very much like a shithole to me (my own experiences in your country being the only reason I don't think it's as much of a shithole as you claim)
Tell me of my descriptions of my country. I really wonder where I've made a wrong impression on people, although it really does not matter.
I am happy here, and you are happy there. But for Uganda, I'm not certain how happy they are to live there. After all, they are amongst the most impoverished of all the world's people.
Quote:Oh, was that what you were trying to do? Well, fuck off mind-reader (and practice your craft because so far you're getting misses, not hits).
I'm not practicing any craft here. But I know what I'm getting here.
I know that your care does not really go beyond this site here.
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#34
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
I think you may be confusing whether or not I care with whether or not I have the ability to effect change. There's a petition, linked in the article btw, had you read it.
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#35
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
(February 27, 2012 at 7:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I think you may be confusing whether or not I care with whether or not I have the ability to effect change. There's a petition, linked in the article btw, had you read it.

And to whom will this petition be submitted to?
The UN?
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#36
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
Maybe you should have read the article eh? Citibank is the one I signed, there's another one as well, can't remember, should I check for you...or maybe you should read the article?

(The UN..hehehe, you love your talking points don't you, no)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#37
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
(February 27, 2012 at 7:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Maybe you should have read the article eh? Citibank is the one I signed, there's another one as well, can't remember, should I check for you...or maybe you should read the article?

(The UN..hehehe, you love your talking points don't you, no)

I did.
But really, I don't think that your petition is the thing that will make this thing go around. It'll probably ease your conscience, but that's it.
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#38
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
So what's the story, I don't care, or it won't help?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#39
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
Petitions had actually been effective many times in the past. Amnesty International does a lot of petition and letter writting just as an international pressure. Either way you do what you can, Nobody can run into a country and hoping you can liberate them. I sure as hell wish I could do it. You do what you can even if it is as little as a petition. You aren't the only one signing. The least it can do is to make it clear to the country's leader and to the international community that people do not agree with this policy because it is hateful,inhumane, and a violation of human rights.
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#40
RE: Uganda wants to kill homosexuals.
Think it's a fantastic idea. I wouldn't want to be on the outs with Citibank or Barclay's if I were Uganda.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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