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RE: Moral realism is false
March 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm
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(March 2, 2012 at 7:26 pm)Forsaken Wrote: (March 2, 2012 at 7:23 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Can I download your post onto my Kiddle?
you may do so from http://ethicalrealism.wordpress.com/2011...l-realism/
He Copied and pasted without much formatting here.
LOL< red-handed. Epic.
(maybe he just forgot to link it)
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Hi folks, thank you very much for your answers :-)
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 3:21 pm
(March 2, 2012 at 7:08 am)Gruesome_knight Wrote: Hi, I am an atheist, I know beyond every possible doubt that there is neither God nor afterlife.
How do you know this 
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 4:34 pm
I don't disagree logically. I think you are factually correct. That being said, everyone (except psychopaths) is going to behave as if there is such a thing as objective morality...thank goodness*! We can't really help it...as you point out, most humans don't like seeing other humans suffering, or suffering themselves.
*Just because I'm foreseeing the response, yeah, I mean most of the time. Obviously culture plays a big role, as another poster said, often for the worse (from the no harm perspective). The flip side is people doing irrational *and* harmful things, like executing homosexuals in the name of morality...
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 6:05 pm
What about Objectivism? I haven't seen any atheists arguing from an Objectivist point of view.
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Paragraphs!
No donut hat for you!
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Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 6:48 pm
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Quote:I know beyond every possible doubt that there is neither God nor afterlife.
Oh a hard atheist,how quaint. (certitude is a not synonym for certainty)
A positive claim attracts the burden of proof,let's see yours.. This should be great!. The first person in recorded history to prove the non existence of gods. You are gonna be SO famous!
As for the rest.I rarely bother with walls of text unless I think the person has something of interest to say. Your fatuous opening claim suggests a lack of familiarity with logical argument,so I haven't bothered.
Oh, welcome to the forum. 
(March 4, 2012 at 3:21 pm)Tempus Wrote: (March 2, 2012 at 7:08 am)Gruesome_knight Wrote: Hi, I am an atheist, I know beyond every possible doubt that there is neither God nor afterlife.
How do you know this
He doesn't; he believes it to be so.
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 6:56 pm
Since you can't prove he doesn't exist... he must therefore exist! So If you know he doesn't exist then I know he exists!..... /drive off cliff
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 8:32 pm
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(March 4, 2012 at 6:48 pm)padraic Wrote: A positive claim attracts the burden of proof,let's see yours.. This should be great!. The first person in recorded history to prove the non existence of gods. You are gonna be SO famous!
Are you sure he'd be the first, or the only? Lets see evidence for your claim.
(lol, giving you shit buddy)
There is no god claim that holds water, not a single one. Every god claim ever made that could have an effect of our universe has been demonstrated to be simple mis-attribution. No evidence has been offered from the pro-god side. No valid and sound philosophical argument for the existence of god exists. In short, where claims are made that evidence can be found, it is not (nd something else is found instead..that's the important bit). In the absence of evidence (and heaps of evidence for other agents) arguments are offered but none hold water. Perhaps you don't consider that thoroughly investigated or disproven. I obviously disagree. I refuse to keep repeating the same arguments until the end of time as though the existence of their god was even a serious claim at this point.
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RE: Moral realism is false
March 4, 2012 at 10:49 pm
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Quote:Are you sure he'd be the first, or the only? Lets see evidence for your claim
Fair enough; I should have modified that with 'as far as I know',as I may be mistaken. I await correction with baited breath. 
I realise you were taking the piss,but it's also a fair point.
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