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Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
Oh for FUCK sake! I was being facetious.It's called "black humour"--That's why I deliberately used the term "stupid-genes"


Of course I hope the boy survives.-and that he's removed from his parents,both of whom should be immediately sterilised.Angel
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
Hey again all,

As a mature (or at least of age) adult, I would do any and everything in my power to resist being forced into chemotherapy. It might seem 'silly' to you, and that I am crazy for not trying as hard as I can to elongate my petty life for as many seconds as possible, regardless of how much pain I experience. But as an adult (which I admit being different that a kid, like this situation discussed) do I have the right to choose not to take chemo? I would call it eugenics if I could be forced against my will to be radiated by a bunch of people that didn't see the whole picture, and so were unnaturally terrified of death.

I say good on the kid, and I am proud of him and his supposed right not to go through that.

I think you guys should spend less time bitching at the world because it has different values that you. We are still not sure who's values are more stupid, so don't wave yours around like they're the word of some logic-god.

Not a coward,
-Pip
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#13
RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
Quote:I say good on the kid, and I am proud of him and his supposed right not to go through that


I'm sure he appreciates your approval.Perhaps you could jot that sentiment on a card with the flowers you send to his funeral.

Quote:I think you guys should spend less time bitching at the world because it has different values that you


My irony meter just shit itself.

Where on earth did you get the quaint notion we "should not" dissent,from YOUR values or those of the rest of the world? Or "should" have different values. Funny,I don't remember the news announcing you'd been made dictator.

I don't give a flying fuck what adults believe,or if they die off in their thousands due to their personal superstitions. BUT,I DO care about children under the age of legal majority being protected from the fatally stupid decisions of their parents
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: I think you guys should spend less time bitching at the world because it has different values that you.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: We are still not sure who's values are more stupid,

Yes we are. If you are willing to let your kid unnecessarily get eaten alive by cancer because some unproven magical being might object you are an immoral sack of shit. If this is the best of the theistic value, than my values are a lot better than that of their god.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
Pippy Wrote:I say good on the kid, and I am proud of him and his supposed right not to go through that.

I think you guys should spend less time bitching at the world because it has different values that you. We are still not sure who's values are more stupid, so don't wave yours around like they're the word of some logic-god.

The views you express here would have been the norm and representative of the majority some time ago, but alas, we no longer live in the theocratic dark ages and we've learnt such a lot since then.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: As a mature (or at least of age) adult, I would do any and everything in my power to resist being forced into chemotherapy.
Have a nice funeral.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: It might seem 'silly' to you
Well yes, that's because it is extremely silly.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: and that I am crazy for not trying as hard as I can to elongate my petty life for as many seconds as possible, regardless of how much pain I experience.
Well yes, that's because you would be crazy.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: But as an adult (which I admit being different that a kid, like this situation discussed) do I have the right to choose not to take chemo?
Of course you do, but it's rather like the decision to brake when a lorry swerves into your path. You have the right to choose not to, but it's an idiotic choice, and only the choice a person who has given up would take.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: I would call it eugenics if I could be forced against my will to be radiated by a bunch of people that didn't see the whole picture, and so were unnaturally terrified of death.
You would call it eugenics, we would call it saving the life of a kid. Are you really so blind as to the difference between the loss of a child and the loss of yourself, an admitted "mature" adult. Maybe instead of thinking as a person who has actually had a life, think of someone who hasn't.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: I say good on the kid, and I am proud of him and his supposed right not to go through that.
He is brainwashed. He thinks pseudo-scientific remedies with no greater power than that of placebo can cure you from cancer. Now I agree, the solution we currently have through medicine is not pretty; we have to pump the body with nasty chemicals. It is very dangerous, it is very painful, but you know why we do it? IT WORKS! If you are proud of him because he chooses certain death over even a remote chance of survival (and believe me, the chance with chemo is not "remote"), then you are a sick individual.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: I think you guys should spend less time bitching at the world because it has different values that you.
Nice hypocritical statement you got there, but we allow you to bitch about us because we have different values than you, because that is how democracy works. That is how people discuss and debate things. You need to have an open forum of discussion. But sure, let's enforce some kind of tyrannical system!

From now on, all discussion must agree with the values of me, Tiberius

Of course, now I need to permanently ban people like bozo for being socialists, and Kyu for using Windows Tongue

...yeah, I'm not gonna do that.
(June 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm)Pippy Wrote: We are still not sure who's values are more stupid, so don't wave yours around like they're the word of some logic-god.
Yes we do. Science has shown that chemo works, much in the same way that science has shown that evolution works, or anything else for that matter. To deny this is to deny science, which you are welcome to. But next time you are at a busy crossing, remember you have given up on science, and don't look both ways before crossing. Take a leap of faith.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
OooooOooOoh.... this is turning into a Right to Die discussion and I want in on some of this name-calling as it's what all the cool kids are doing!


Yes, Pippy, you have the right to die. Any of these numb-nuts who call you stupid for making that decision are a bunch of fuckin' idiot dumbasses.

Did I do it rite?
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
(June 24, 2009 at 8:00 am)Dotard Wrote: Yes, Pippy, you have the right to die. Any of these numb-nuts who call you stupid for making that decision are a bunch of fuckin' idiot dumbasses.

Did I do it rite?
No, because none of us are claiming that Pippy doesn't have the right to die. We are claiming that when a person is brainwashed and thinks that natural remedies will keep them alive when instead they will kill them, they should be treated with medicine that will save them.

This isn't about the right to die, this is about the right to life. The boy concerned doesn't want to die, but he believes he will live by taking natural remedies instead of chemo, and he is wrong about that.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
Update: Oh look...he's getting better!.
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RE: Boy flees Mexico to avoid chemo due in part to religious beliefs.
Quote:Of course I hope the boy survives.-and that he's removed from his parents,both of whom should be immediately sterilised.Angel
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I've been saying for years that there needs to be a sterilization program in affect for all kinds of people...Unfortunately, it would never pass....

Reason why? Because a good bit of those same people that need to take part in this program are part of our Government....lolol
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