space travel vs. creator

[Chuck]

(18th April 2012 23:46)Christian Wrote:  America is in debt. Its that simple. Or maybe they realized that playing God is not in the best interest of the Human race.

A finer encapsulation of the indolent, degenerate influences of christianity would hard to come by

[Mosrhun]

Edit: I'll make my own thread as this is more about the government it seems.

[RaphielDrake]

Its kind of hard to believe that there are politicians out there who can't be bothered investing time and money to getting closer to making fucking *spaceships* and exploring the *universe*. The *universe*, that thing we've been staring up at for the entire time we've existed.
I mean, get your head round that for a second, they would rather get richer (even though they have more than enough already) than pursue the possibility of exploring the cosmos.
These are the people incharge, these people who are so dull they would rather add a few more figures onto their wealth than be remembered for all time as leaders who ushered in a new age of limitless possibilities. An age where we might eventually colonize new planets with earth like atmospheres reducing over-population and unemployment rates. Where technology reaches new heights it could almost be considered magic and our understanding expands to answer the questions we previously thought unanswerable. This is the very endeavor they don't believe to be worth their precious time, they instead use this time to accumulate mass quantities of paper.
Fucking morons.

[Minimalist]

(18th April 2012 23:46)Christian Wrote:  America is in debt. Its that simple. Or maybe they realized that playing God is not in the best interest of the Human race.

Indeed we are...because of cocksucking republicunt politicians starting wars all over the landscape and giving tax money away to their business buddies.

And always there are preachers with their fucking hand out demanding a piece of the action for their so-called ministries!

[jackman]

(19th April 2012 02:49)RaphielDrake Wrote:  Its kind of hard to believe that there are politicians out there who can't be bothered investing time and money to getting closer to making fucking *spaceships* and exploring the *universe*. The *universe*, that thing we've been staring up at for the entire time we've existed.
I mean, get your head round that for a second, they would rather get richer (even though they have more than enough already) than pursue the possibility of exploring the cosmos.
These are the people incharge, these people who are so dull they would rather add a few more figures onto their wealth than be remembered for all time as leaders who ushered in a new age of limitless possibilities. An age where we might eventually colonize new planets with earth like atmospheres reducing over-population and unemployment rates. Where technology reaches new heights it could almost be considered magic and our understanding expands to answer the questions we previously thought unanswerable. This is the very endeavor they don't believe to be worth their precious time, they instead use this time to accumulate mass quantities of paper.
Fucking morons.

excellent.

also, nasa has created so many technologies in their pursuit of deeper knowledge of our universe, that they're able to commercialize them for our own use here on the rock. think of how artificial robotic limbs help amputees, how smoke inhalation systems help firefighters, benefits of freeze dried food and memory (temper) foam.

even reducing the size of electronic devices like cellphones and radio players - all to reduce the weight of objects being carried into space, because shipping costs are quoted at $635/pound just for low-earth orbit. wouldn't be so convenient if cellphones were still the size of shoe-boxes.

[Polaris]

Not at all for three reasons.

1. The Space Race ended 20 (30 to 40 could be argued) years ago and there is not as much reason for the government to devote a large portion of the GDP on it.

2. NASA has royally screwed up time and time again....why should we continue to finance failure?

3. If the reason was to disprove God merely because we could not find God in the cosmos, that issue would have ended with Yuri.

[Moros Synackaon]

(19th May 2012 04:16)Polaris Wrote:  1. The Space Race ended 20 (30 to 40 could be argued) years ago and there is not as much reason for the government to devote a large portion of the GDP on it.

2. NASA has royally screwed up time and time again....why should we continue to finance failure?

3. If the reason was to disprove God merely because we could not find God in the cosmos, that issue would have ended with Yuri.

1. Please show where we devote a "large portion of the GDP" to NASA. And it has to be relevant (i.e. within our existing budget framework, not 30 years ago).

2. You've screwed up. Tell me, why should we continue to allow us around us? Existence of failure is not a reason to simply trash an entire organization -- it is no more of a reason than we can trash you from here because you made a mistake.

3. You mean Yuri saw ALL the cosmos? Really? That's what you're implying -- that the act of touching Low Earth Orbit (LEO) is inspecting ALL of the COSMOS. That is the only way your sentence can express the "issue" ending with Yuri while still preserving "we could not find God in the cosmos" as a statement.

Your words. If only you would eat them. Perhaps then you would learn something.

[Polaris]

(19th May 2012 22:36)Moros Synackaon Wrote:  

(19th May 2012 04:16)Polaris Wrote:  1. The Space Race ended 20 (30 to 40 could be argued) years ago and there is not as much reason for the government to devote a large portion of the GDP on it.

2. NASA has royally screwed up time and time again....why should we continue to finance failure?

3. If the reason was to disprove God merely because we could not find God in the cosmos, that issue would have ended with Yuri.

1. Please show where we devote a "large portion of the GDP" to NASA. And it has to be relevant (i.e. within our existing budget framework, not 30 years ago).

2. You've screwed up. Tell me, why should we continue to allow us around us? Existence of failure is not a reason to simply trash an entire organization -- it is no more of a reason than we can trash you from here because you made a mistake.

3. You mean Yuri saw ALL the cosmos? Really? That's what you're implying -- that the act of touching Low Earth Orbit (LEO) is inspecting ALL of the COSMOS. That is the only way your sentence can express the "issue" ending with Yuri while still preserving "we could not find God in the cosmos" as a statement.

Your words. If only you would eat them. Perhaps then you would learn something.

1. We don't devote a large portion of the GDP to NASA. Hence why I said there is not as much reason to do so.

2. So what if I screwed up? I did not put lives at risk unnecessarily due to bureaucratic BS. The privatization of space travel has been greatly favored by the Democrats, especially Obama. NASA, a once great organization, has been hampered by its own administration.

3. You really going down the route that God is hiding in some galaxy?

[Napoléon]

(19th April 2012 02:49)RaphielDrake Wrote:  These are the people incharge, these people who are so dull they would rather add a few more figures onto their wealth than be remembered for all time as leaders who ushered in a new age of limitless possibilities. An age where we might eventually colonize new planets with earth like atmospheres reducing over-population and unemployment rates. Where technology reaches new heights it could almost be considered magic and our understanding expands to answer the questions we previously thought unanswerable. This is the very endeavor they don't believe to be worth their precious time, they instead use this time to accumulate mass quantities of paper.
Fucking morons.

In reality space exploration more than likely won't be like that for a VERY long time, if it will ever be like that at all. It's more than a little naive to think that these leaders would ever expect that they would go down in history as 'great leaders who ushered in a new age'. It's just as naive to think that all of what you mentioned is plausible at all. What do you seriously think they would do? What would anyone do, given their situation? Politicians aren't there to push space exploration, they're there to run countries. Unfortunately it seems at this present time space exploration isn't top of the agenda for running countries, maybe you hadn't noticed that, as sad as it is.
They may be incredibly inept at doing what they're supposed to do, I'll grant you that, but calling them 'fucking morons' for not doing what is in your fantasy head is pretty obnoxious in my opinion.