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Republic in the UK?
#31
RE: Republic in the UK?
If you honestly think the Republican party is the same thing as Republicanism then you need to go educate yourself.
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#32
RE: Republic in the UK?
I find it funny how the 'Liberal' party in Australia is full of conservatives and currently lead by someone who supports the constitutional monarchy.
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#33
RE: Republic in the UK?
(April 27, 2012 at 5:51 am)soitgoes Wrote: Any of my fellow Brits out here keen to stop the unwarranted hypocrisy of our support for democracy in Lybia, Iraq, Afghan and so on, whilst our head of state is unelected, along with about of third of our parliament?

Even if you managed to put up a united front for becoming a republic there is no way it would happen. You'd be allowed to "voice our opinions" in a designated area under the watchful eye of the police and then go home at the prearranged time. If you voice our opinions alittle too loudly you'd get pepper sprayed which would be a top story for about a week then be swept under the carpet. After that the voices of protest will fade and then the memory of those voices will fade. The remnants will later be branded as crackpots or radicals and be mocked on TV panel shows.
What little sway or power protest had died in the 80s, you have no power over how your society is governed. When those in power have milked this country clean of whatever they can they will emigrate to a nice, sunny climate and enjoy their pilfered wealth leaving us with a skapegoat to blame for everything.
Thats how the system works, until it can no longer be sustained that is how it will continue to work. Then perhaps your protests will hold sway over the disenchanted masses.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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#34
RE: Republic in the UK?
Well The Queen is only a figurehead and has no power the PM has all the power and the house of commons the house of lords and the queen can only delay a law. So I simply don't care either way.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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#35
RE: Republic in the UK?
(April 30, 2012 at 6:13 am)Tempus Wrote: I find it funny how the 'Liberal' party in Australia is full of conservatives and currently lead by someone who supports the constitutional monarchy.
The term "liberal" has changed around a few times. It used to mean something similar to what Libertarianism means today.

(April 30, 2012 at 8:39 am)Gooders1002 Wrote: Well The Queen is only a figurehead and has no power the PM has all the power and the house of commons the house of lords and the queen can only delay a law. So I simply don't care either way.
If you honestly believe that then you badly need an education. The PM does not have "all the power". The Queen has a great deal of power, including the power to dissolve parliament, control the army, and declare war: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2003/...nformation
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#36
RE: Republic in the UK?
How often does the queen ever exercise those rights?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#37
RE: Republic in the UK?
(April 30, 2012 at 8:50 am)Faith No More Wrote: How often does the queen ever exercise those rights?
Hardly the point when she has the power to exercise them, and so do her descendants. Just because the current Queen doesn't use them in no way means one of her descendants won't. In any case, this was about the Queen having no power, which is a complete falsehood.
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#38
RE: Republic in the UK?
(April 30, 2012 at 8:55 am)Tiberius Wrote:
(April 30, 2012 at 8:50 am)Faith No More Wrote: How often does the queen ever exercise those rights?
Hardly the point when she has the power to exercise them, and so do her descendants. Just because the current Queen doesn't use them in no way means one of her descendants won't. In any case, this was about the Queen having no power, which is a complete falsehood.

After Seeing the article (in the guardain) I say lets make Britain a republic. Either take away the monarchy power (make is a ceremonial position) or remove them completely.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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#39
RE: Republic in the UK?
Welcome to the cause. Making them a ceremonial position would be a step in the right direction, but I still think it is unfair to have such positions limited to one family.
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#40
RE: Republic in the UK?
Well, if Scotland gain independence then I am going to claim the throne up here.
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