Favourite Dictators/Historical Leaders

[Anomalocaris]

Blut und Ehre Volksgenosse!

Your kind would suck too much to even get this far:

[kılıç_mehmet]

Blut und Ehre Volksgenosse!

Your kind would suck too much to even get this far:

Da waren wir doch aber schon, Volksgenosse:3
But seriously, since Turkey exists, it means we've outlasted the Nazis, we had our nationalist revolution before them, and look, it's laws are still in place. Why don't you come to bomb us for it like you did with the poor Germans?

[popeyespappy]

Which part is the porn? The nose of the Ju-88 or the BF-109 humping it?

The part that gets you hot and bothered.

[Napoléon]

Why don't you come to bomb us for it like you did with the poor Germans?

The 'poor Germans'? Are you seriously suggesting you have sympathy for the Nazis?

My estimation of you gets lower and lower Mehmet.

[Reforged]

Can I pick people from on here? I've got a particular nutcase in mind I'm officially voting to be the one most likely to set up concentration camps next.
Just sayin'.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Why don't you come to bomb us for it like you did with the poor Germans?

The 'poor Germans'? Are you seriously suggesting you have sympathy for the Nazis?

My estimation of you gets lower and lower Mehmet.

Nazis, Germans. They are the same. Nazis were in fact, Germans. I don't know how more clear one can get about this issue.
Really, you did whatever you did to the Germans. The fact that you call them "Nazis" is just propaganda. It gives you the impression that you did not punish the Germans for what "their government has done".
Besides, yes, I do have sympathy for the Germans. First, they were put under a brutal treaty that emancipated them, and when they said that they won't take shit from others anymore, you declared war upon them once more. Who wouldn't?
In theory, they had emulated us, how we had freed ourselves from the treaty of Sevres and built an independent nation.
Not to say the fault was entirely on your side. Hitler, in his megalomania was too careless with how fast he wanted to expand. He could have just bided his time for a little longer.
As you had said, we went a lot, a lot further than the Germans. We still exist as a nationalist country, a nation state that was built on the tenets nationalism, unlike the German government that was established after WWII, that was modelled after the US government.

Chuck said we suck too much to even go that far. We've already surpassed these, friend.

[Reforged]

The 'poor Germans'? Are you seriously suggesting you have sympathy for the Nazis?

My estimation of you gets lower and lower Mehmet.

Nazis, Germans. They are the same. Nazis were in fact, Germans. I don't know how more clear one can get about this issue.
Really, you did whatever you did to the Germans. The fact that you call them "Nazis" is just propaganda. It gives you the impression that you did not punish the Germans for what "their government has done".
Besides, yes, I do have sympathy for the Germans. First, they were put under a brutal treaty that emancipated them, and when they said that they won't take shit from others anymore, you declared war upon them once more. Who wouldn't?
In theory, they had emulated us, how we had freed ourselves from the treaty of Sevres and built an independent nation.
Not to say the fault was entirely on your side. Hitler, in his megalomania was too careless with how fast he wanted to expand. He could have just bided his time for a little longer.
As you had said, we went a lot, a lot further than the Germans. We still exist as a nationalist country, a nation state that was built on the tenets nationalism, unlike the German government that was established after WWII, that was modelled after the US government.

Chuck said we suck too much to even go that far. We've already surpassed these, friend.

Although severely skewed in his outlook Mehmet does have a point in that the treaty and the repairations the Germans were made to pay from the First World War made a second inevitable. The Germans desperation during the depression caused by these harsh penalties made it all too easy for a nutcase like Hitler to get in power.

However, if I was to put rankings on every country in terms of progress then modern Germany would definitely be higher on the list than modern Turkey. Any arguement to the contrary would need to demonstrate evidence that Turkey has better technology, a better system of government, a better education system, better military, better policing, more influence in the world and a more enlightened social structure. Good luck with that.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Nazis, Germans. They are the same. Nazis were in fact, Germans. I don't know how more clear one can get about this issue.
Really, you did whatever you did to the Germans. The fact that you call them "Nazis" is just propaganda. It gives you the impression that you did not punish the Germans for what "their government has done".
Besides, yes, I do have sympathy for the Germans. First, they were put under a brutal treaty that emancipated them, and when they said that they won't take shit from others anymore, you declared war upon them once more. Who wouldn't?
In theory, they had emulated us, how we had freed ourselves from the treaty of Sevres and built an independent nation.
Not to say the fault was entirely on your side. Hitler, in his megalomania was too careless with how fast he wanted to expand. He could have just bided his time for a little longer.
As you had said, we went a lot, a lot further than the Germans. We still exist as a nationalist country, a nation state that was built on the tenets nationalism, unlike the German government that was established after WWII, that was modelled after the US government.

Chuck said we suck too much to even go that far. We've already surpassed these, friend.

Although severely skewed in his outlook Mehmet does have a point in that the treaty and the repairations the Germans were made to pay from the First World War made a second inevitable. The Germans desperation during the depression caused by these harsh penalties made it all too easy for a nutcase like Hitler to get in power.

However, if I was to put rankings on every country in terms of progress then modern Germany would definitely be higher on the list than modern Turkey. Any arguement to the contrary would need to demonstrate evidence that Turkey has better technology, a better system of government, a better education system, more influence in the world and a more enlightened social structure. Good luck with that.

Well, who did you expect to come to power? A person that upholds the national honour that has been severely damaged by a treaty that has been the result of French douchebaggery.

And well, your rankings do not really concern me, friend.
The fact that Germans seem to be better in terms of economy or technology now does not mean that we should prostrate ourselves before them and accept defeat. If there is someone that is better than you, the least you can do is to strive to be better. And I know that we can do that.
The fact that Germany now ranks higher-thanks to having been already put in a place where it would never archive to the greatness of their forefathers, have entirely concentrated their efforts on their economy and scientific progress, although I could say that Germany was already a great economic and scientific power during the days of the Nazis. Thankfully, their position as being a border region to the Soviets during the cold war made NATO assistance to Germany in terms of economy and science a necessity. We were not given the same assistance, even though we were in the same situation.
A nation's greatness is not measured by just it's economic wealth or the wealth of it's members. Obviously, the national greatness of Poland, for example, ranks higher in my eyes in comparison with the US.
The US never really went through the "examination" that the Poles have went through within their national history. We are, as a matter of fact, a great nation because we have faced almost every peril a nation could face, and still thrived. Same, for the Germans. However unlike the Germans, who were generally static throughout their history, we have been the quite opposite.

[Reforged]

Although severely skewed in his outlook Mehmet does have a point in that the treaty and the repairations the Germans were made to pay from the First World War made a second inevitable. The Germans desperation during the depression caused by these harsh penalties made it all too easy for a nutcase like Hitler to get in power.

However, if I was to put rankings on every country in terms of progress then modern Germany would definitely be higher on the list than modern Turkey. Any arguement to the contrary would need to demonstrate evidence that Turkey has better technology, a better system of government, a better education system, more influence in the world and a more enlightened social structure. Good luck with that.

Well, who did you expect to come to power? A person that upholds the national honour that has been severely damaged by a treaty that has been the result of French douchebaggery.

And well, your rankings do not really concern me, friend.
The fact that Germans seem to be better in terms of economy or technology now does not mean that we should prostrate ourselves before them and accept defeat. If there is someone that is better than you, the least you can do is to strive to be better. And I know that we can do that.
The fact that Germany now ranks higher-thanks to having been already put in a place where it would never archive to the greatness of their forefathers, have entirely concentrated their efforts on their economy and scientific progress, although I could say that Germany was already a great economic and scientific power during the days of the Nazis. Thankfully, their position as being a border region to the Soviets during the cold war made NATO assistance to Germany in terms of economy and science a necessity. We were not given the same assistance, even though we were in the same situation.
A nation's greatness is not measured by just it's economic wealth or the wealth of it's members. Obviously, the national greatness of Poland, for example, ranks higher in my eyes in comparison with the US.
The US never really went through the "examination" that the Poles have went through within their national history. We are, as a matter of fact, a great nation because we have faced almost every peril a nation could face, and still thrived. Same, for the Germans. However unlike the Germans, who were generally static throughout their history, we have been the quite opposite.

er...*I* didn't? Not sure about everyone else here but I wasn't alive at the time and wasn't there. How about you Marty McFly?

Oh and as for: "However unlike the Germans, who were generally static throughout their history, we have been the quite opposite."



'Nough said.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Well, who did you expect to come to power? A person that upholds the national honour that has been severely damaged by a treaty that has been the result of French douchebaggery.

And well, your rankings do not really concern me, friend.
The fact that Germans seem to be better in terms of economy or technology now does not mean that we should prostrate ourselves before them and accept defeat. If there is someone that is better than you, the least you can do is to strive to be better. And I know that we can do that.
The fact that Germany now ranks higher-thanks to having been already put in a place where it would never archive to the greatness of their forefathers, have entirely concentrated their efforts on their economy and scientific progress, although I could say that Germany was already a great economic and scientific power during the days of the Nazis. Thankfully, their position as being a border region to the Soviets during the cold war made NATO assistance to Germany in terms of economy and science a necessity. We were not given the same assistance, even though we were in the same situation.
A nation's greatness is not measured by just it's economic wealth or the wealth of it's members. Obviously, the national greatness of Poland, for example, ranks higher in my eyes in comparison with the US.
The US never really went through the "examination" that the Poles have went through within their national history. We are, as a matter of fact, a great nation because we have faced almost every peril a nation could face, and still thrived. Same, for the Germans. However unlike the Germans, who were generally static throughout their history, we have been the quite opposite.

er...*I* didn't? Not sure about everyone else here but I wasn't alive at the time and wasn't there. How about you Marty McFly?

Oh and as for: "However unlike the Germans, who were generally static throughout their history, we have been the quite opposite."



'Nough said.

Enough said about what? You did not make a statement, really.
The fact that we're not the leftover country of an American occupation, thankfully, and the fact that we still live in the country whose independence we won by our blood proves to me that we're obviously not prone to accept defeat as quickly as some.