For kılıç_mehmet

[kılıç_mehmet]

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What I'm saying is, that you cannot slander my family over a forum. How do you even do that without knowing who they really are anyways?
And why you would not find me before you is due to this: You are in no real position to slander my family my mother or any of my relatives.
Such words are empty, therefore I did not take any of the vulgarity directed towards me by some people I won't name into account while answering their posts. They are just meaningless words, with very little thought behind it. Likewise, in another forum, some funny people have included burning Turkish flags and other obscenity into their signatures with hopes of pissing me off. I am beyond such silly things.
There is no way you or anyone here can "cyber-bully" me.

They can single me out as much as they want, friend. As I said, a better way would be to ask me to leave.

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[Napoléon]

Well, where will this lead us to, though?

Merely making the point that you have a great tendency to derail threads much to the annoyance of other users (maybe just me). Whether you like to think so or not. Whether it is completely you or not, I don't really think you help yourself.

[Reforged]

People will read your posts in those threads from start to finish and decide on their own. I will not attempt to influence their opinions one way or another. Also, I'm not done looking. Heres a fifth, I'll keep you posted on my findings.

http://atheistforums.org/thread-12762-po...#pid284454

Well, if they really really will bother with it, I'd be more than happy to answer their posts, friend.
You keep posting things, but you do not go to the real root of the discussion.
Go far far back and report me about your findings then. These posts are all quotes, as far as I can see. I merely replied to another post.
Should I be blaming them for derailing the thread?

Evidence submission number 6:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-12780-page-3.html

And the claim put forward by Napoleon is not one of simple derailment. It is one of derailment with intent to force nationalist propoganda and instigate a "my countires better than yours" pissing contest in every thread you get the oppurtunity. This is not the forum to do that in, this is a forum concerned with theology and atheism. Not nationality. If you want that then you should either address it to the proper thread or find a forum that deals solely in that.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Well, where will this lead us to, though?

Merely making the point that you have a great tendency to derail threads much to the annoyance of other users (maybe just me). Whether you like to think so or not. Whether it is completely you or not, I don't really think you help yourself.

Well, you are free to whether you wish to take part in the discussion or not.
The topics that have been "derailed" are topics that have the potential to be derailed.
For example, same-sex marriage. It's a very narrow topic. The views about it are already fixed. Either you oppose it, or you don't. How long can you actually keep it up, though?
Annoyance, well, I can't deny that I enjoy talking about nationalism all day long, but there are times when I simply do not want to repeat myself. On points where I think that I still have to explain things to people, I do so.

[Napoléon]

The topics that have been "derailed" are topics that have the potential to be derailed.

Oh, oh right. That's ok then. *Sarcasm*

For example, same-sex marriage. It's a very narrow topic. The views about it are already fixed. Either you oppose it, or you don't. How long can you actually keep it up, though?

We keep it up until you come in, make a racist comment which you know will get a reaction, and then bullshit along for several pages talking about your blood and your superior race.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Oh, oh right. That's ok then. *Sarcasm*

Tell this to the people that have replied to me. You can blame me for derailing your gay marriage threads all day long, but I can't really derail a thread all by myself, can I?

We keep it up until you come in, make a racist comment which you know will get a reaction, and then bullshit along for several pages talking about your blood and your superior race.

If I think that racial topics have something to do with it, I'll add my views on it.
And I can almost always say that the issue of superiority has been brought up by my opponents, as a counterargument.

[Napoléon]

Tell this to the people that have replied to me. You can blame me for derailing your gay marriage threads all day long, but I can't really derail a thread all by myself, can I?

True, you can not. However you instigate these derailments. That's the difference. Maybe not all the time, but even when you are not the instigator you are most certainly largely responsible for taking threads wildly off topic. As has been evidenced numerous times here.

If I think that racial topics have something to do with it, I'll add my views on it.

I'll bear that in mind and make comments on barbie dolls in threads about world war 2.

And I can almost always say that the issue of superiority has been brought up by my opponents, as a counterargument.

Bullshit.

[Reforged]

Its a shame really, aside from the constant need to have a national pissing contest and the inbuilt homophobia you're really an alright guy. Is there anyway we could just have the debate you so clearly want on this thread so you don't have to bring the subject up of nationalism in every other thread?

[Napoléon]

Its a shame really, aside from the constant need to have a national pissing contest and the inbuilt homophobia you're really an alright guy. Is there anyway we could just have the debate you so clearly want on this thread so you don't have to bring the subject up of nationalism in another thread?

This is my only point. It's like Mehmet can't make comments about anything lately unless it has something to do with his glorious nation, or his terrific race.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to express his feelings, but fuck me, it comes to a point where everything the guy posts descends into arguments about racism.

And like it or not, it is disruptive.

[Shell B]

Frankly, I'm appalled that so many of you would jump on the back of one our members. Kilic's posts may not be some of your favorites and there are certainly times when I disagree with him, but many of you also make controversial remarks. I would come to your defense as well if someone started thread intended only to start bickering. Napo, you're not stupid. You knew this would cause a flame war of sorts.

Ganging up on someone in a thread solely created to out that someone is not cool. You should all know that. It is one thing to argue or even fling insults in a thread that is meant for productive conversation. A thread like this has no fucking place on this forum. My hands are tied since it has prompted discussion, but I will ask you all to think about this kind of behavior before chiming in.