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[kılıç_mehmet]

Quote:So the two things do not receive a similar, or even comparable amount of stigma?

I don't think the comparison is a biological one do you? Rather a social one.

Well, they don't. It's "comparable", if we lump the cousin-cousin marriage under the context of incest. But in general, it isn't, unless the marrying cousins themselves are not gay.

Quote:I'm not you people. So please refrain from calling me that.

Well, I'm generally the only opposing party in such threads. So everyone that isn't on my side, is on the other side.

Quote:Quite.

Have it your way then. As I said, things are orderly around my parts of the globe, thankfully.

[Napoléon]

(30th May 2012 23:35)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:  Well, they don't. It's "comparable", if we lump the cousin-cousin marriage under the context of incest. But in general, it isn't, unless the marrying cousins themselves are not gay.

Well, they do. Certainly where I'm from marrying your cousin is often looked at as far worse a 'moral crime' than being a homosexual. Ofcourse only to the kinds of people who think it is a moral crime at all.

Quote:Well, I'm generally the only opposing party in such threads. So everyone that isn't on my side, is on the other side.

Ofcourse. Because everything is perfectly black and white. Everybody either has one opinion or the other.

Quote:Have it your way then. As I said, things are orderly around my parts of the globe, thankfully.

This is supposed to mean what exactly? Yet again Mehmet you bring up these veiled comments hinting at your nations apparent 'superiority'. I've tried calling you out on it. I've tried being polite to you about it. But every damn time I seem to converse with you it turns into some kind of pedestal where you can claim this superiority, or make petty jabs as though you live in such a perfectly moral society and everywhere else is inferior.

[Creed of Heresy]

...Really? REALLY, California? No gay marriage allowed there? I'M LOOKING AT YOOOOUUUUU, SAN FRANCISCO!

[Moros Synackaon]

(31st May 2012 15:42)Creed of Heresy Wrote:  ...Really? REALLY, California? No gay marriage allowed there? I'M LOOKING AT YOOOOUUUUU, SAN FRANCISCO!

Blame the fucking Mormons. They fucking contributed a SuperPAC's worth to proposition H8.

Though, to be fair, the Anti-Prop 8 campaign was criminally mismanaged. Saying "We're here, deal with it" wins you no friends -- this was a far cry from their previous approach to model themselves after the civil rights movement, which was more "We're just like you. We're wearing nice clothes, are respectable and are just like you."

Dumbshits, all around.

But yeah.

Fuck all Mormons in good standing -- they deserve every bit of hate for it was their money that fed the Prop 8 campaign.

[Rev. Rye]

(30th May 2012 22:07)Chuck Wrote:  What you might also not know is the cultural taboo against first cousin marriages is probably a very recent thing. 80% of all marriages throughout the history of Homo Sapeins have been between second cousins or closer:

Kinship-Marriage-Anthropological-Perspective-Anthropology

Also, the overall risk of birth defect in first cousin marriages is comparable to the risk of birth defects from women married to non-relatives, but giving birth at age 40. So if a woman is giving birth past age 40, she is doing a worse thing for her offsprings than marrying her first cousin.

So if marriage between first cousin is to be outlawed based on risks to the offspring, then women should go to jail for attempting to conceive after 40.

Finally, Charles Darwin of the Origins of Species married his first cousin Emma Wedgwood. Some of their offsprings turned out rather well even by the standards of their father.

The real danger comes when you go overboard. I recently discovered this guy.
Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Charles II, King of Spain from 1665-1700.



And here is his family tree, with many of the relationships noted for clarity.

[Jaysyn]

Sanctity of Christian Marriage, FTW!

[liam]

(30th May 2012 21:10)Shell B Wrote:  Point is: Move to New England. We're assholes, but we're not that kind of asshole.

Alternatively, move to old England, where your bottom is your own business. Also, we're arseholes, but only if you live on a council estate