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Pink is quite fashionable.
#41
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm)Hovik Wrote:
(June 1, 2012 at 6:47 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: It implicates no such thing and yeah, I am seriously going to argue that with you. Why make the point? Why make the point "This is the hottest day we've had in months"?
Why make the point "Thats the most dramatic novel I've ever read"? Are you being serious? Why the hell should I conform to the way you interpret stuff? Suffice to say it was said without negative commentations.
This is a ridiculous attempt at mud slinging and I'm not going to take it.
Fuck you man, thats messed up.

"Implicate" and "imply" are not the same thing.

"This is the hottest day we've had in months" is a meaningful sentence in the context of it being hot outside. If it's cold outside, and someone were to utter this, it would be construed as having meaning other than the basic meaning, i.e. pragmatic meaning. For example, it could be construed with sarcasm. This is an implicature.

Saying "That's the gayest thing I've ever read" does not have any value in a neutral sense. Why would you say it if you didn't mean to implicate something about being gay or gay things? No, what happened here is you used a word that carries with it a lot of social stigma and historical baggage as though it had something to do with the particular characteristics with which you associated it.

I could literally watch two men having sex and say "that's gay," and I would be factually correct. That would be a neutral statement.

On the other side of the coin, I could see a man hug his best friend and say "that's gay" and be factually incorrect; however, the implicature that statement would engender in that context would be something to the effect of "being gay is noteworthy" or "being gay is abnormal such that I feel the need to comment on it."

At the very least, your statement implies that there are certain things (like colors or behaviors outside of homosexuality) that can be classified as "gay," and they are these very stereotypes we need to destroy by not associating them with the word "gay."

I'm not slinging mud; I'm simply trying to defeat the misuse of a word that doesn't need to have anymore inappropriate and irrelevant associations.

Tell you what, you go read the statement I refered to. Read it carefuly. If you don't instantly think "Wow, that sounds suspiciously like he got covered in seamen all day." and you don't consider that to be a gay act without any prejudice against gay people I'll go buy you a dictionary and a fucking cookie. Its midnight and I've got better shit to do than argue with someone who obviously wanted to take the oppurtunity to be a self-rightious ass.
We're done here, period.
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#42
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(June 1, 2012 at 5:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Subtle reference to the Jubilympics, Tibes?

I'm a republican and I think the Olympics is a big waste of money...so no. The colour was chosen by Violet. It's the same one she has.

You and I are of the same mind I see.
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#43
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
Ugh. Am I going to have to split this thread to a discussion about the political correctness of the term "gay?"
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#44
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm)Shell B Wrote: Ugh. Am I going to have to split this thread to a discussion about the political correctness of the term "gay?"

No need, I'm not responding to that bullshit anymore.
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#45
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 7:06 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Tell you what, you go read the statement I refered to. Read it carefuly. If you don't instantly think "Wow, that sounds suspiciously like he got covered in seamen all day." and you don't consider that to be a gay act without any prejudice against gay people I'll go buy you a dictionary and a fucking cookie. Its midnight and I've got better shit to do than argue with someone who obviously wanted to take the oppurtunity to be a self-rightious ass.
We're done here, period.

I've read your statement, and I've read what it refers to. My point still firmly stands that what you wrote is offensive.

You're the only one being an ass, dude.
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#46
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm)Shell B Wrote: Ugh. Am I going to have to split this thread to a discussion about the political correctness of the term "gay?"
Yes of course! Some people who are very careful not to derail threads with certain provocative posts, would have probably done the same and incited proceedings towards those who do.
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#47
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
We're not the language police here, guys. Sure, it was a provocative statement, but several pages worth of banter about it is kind of excessive.
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#48
RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm)Shell B Wrote: We're not the language police here, guys. Sure, it was a provocative statement, but several pages worth of banter about it is kind of excessive.
Endure, in enduring grow strong, Shell. Some do not endure the reactions to their words to the full.
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Holy bullshit supremo ...
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RE: Pink is quite fashionable.
(June 1, 2012 at 7:14 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(June 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm)Shell B Wrote: Ugh. Am I going to have to split this thread to a discussion about the political correctness of the term "gay?"
Yes of course! Some people who are very careful not to derail threads with certain provocative posts, would have probably done the same and incited proceedings towards those who do.

I wasn't aware I'd derailed seven threads onto the subject mehmet.
You'll be sure to point out those threads to me won't you?
I'd so hate to fall below the high standard of behavior you conduct yourself with.
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