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Where did the Jesus myth come from?
RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
It's alright tea, I remember when I used to get shown where I was wrong I would deny it all that I could. The problem is though, that the brain isn't so easy to manipulate. At the back of my head I still had the realisation that I was wrong even if I didn't show it.

Assuming Lion has a similar brain structure to mine, I'd say the damage is already done, even if we don't see the repurcussions of it right now.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
(September 4, 2012 at 10:14 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: It's alright tea, I remember when I used to get shown where I was wrong I would deny it all that I could. The problem is though, that the brain isn't so easy to manipulate. At the back of my head I still had the realisation that I was wrong even if I didn't show it.

Assuming Lion has a similar brain structure to mine, I'd say the damage is already done, even if we don't see the repurcussions of it right now.

This is happening to Lion right now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuYbDP2kDfg
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
(September 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: And no, you're little upside-down theory doesn't work. Supposing that Christianity first started out as for everyone, then some little group popped within Christianity after Jesus died and said "Hey, Jews only!" then it's strange that Acts portrays Peter as being in such of group. And it still doesn't explain why Peter and the group seemingly forgot what Jesus taught in the gospels. And it's not possible to read the verses of Acts as they are there to dissuade preaching to gentiles. They show preaching to gentiles in a positive light!
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(September 4, 2012 at 10:04 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: ...

Acts shows preaching to the Gentiles in a positive light.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John show preaching to the Gentiles in a positive light.

HOORAY!

We are in agreement.

I'm glad we had this chat.
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(September 4, 2012 at 10:12 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Nope, your apologetic nightmare isn't over yet. Assuming your upside down theory is correct, if there was some group trying to fabricate an anti-gentile message into the gospel, then Peter would have had a vision informing him not to preach to gentiles. But the vision was informing him that it was ok to preach to gentiles thus it was in a positive light.

No, Acts shows that preaching the Good News to all nations is exactly in accord with Jesus' invocations. Thats why I was so glad to read that you realised... they show preaching to gentiles in a positive light!.

So Robert Price's conspiracy theory about a controversy - that nobody really thought or wanted to preach to all nations/Gentiles until long after Jesus died - is defunct.

An alternate conspiracy theory would need to add fake verses which suggest the opposite of a universal Gospel preached to all nations.
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RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
There was a controversy portrayed in acts! A controversy which was settled! The fact that it was settled to allow gentiles to be Christians is what I meant by "portrayed in a positive light."
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
Acts portrays preaching to all nations including Gentiles in a very positive light.
Glad we agree.
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John equally show this in a positive light as an explicit invocation from Jesus.
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RE: Where did the Jesus myth come from?
You have just reached a new low. I can't see any alternative to you intentionally misinterpreting what I said.
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