Homosexuality

[Eilonnwy]

Fun Fact, I was at a panel with James Marsters and Gareth David Lloyd and James says John Barrowman gets away with harassing the ladies on set since he's gay. XD

But as far as the anal thing goes, it's a very broad statement to say straight men don't like it far more than straight woman. Many straight men are into it, so I don't like broad statements like that.

And there is no conclusive research that demonstrates a straight gene. However, many things that make us who we are aren't limited to a single gene for each trait, so it's fallacious to think there has to be for homosexuality to be biological and not a choice.

[Violet]

If there is a gay gene, then there is a straight gene. It is probably more than a single gene that determine who is more homosexual that heterosexual... or vis versa. And in other cases (which i think more common than the other two) there is a similarly prevalent amount of the two.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

If there is a gay gene, then there is a straight gene.

I can see how the existence of a gay gene implies a straight gene. However I don't know enough about genetics to be able to simply accept one infers the other.

Perhaps someone could explain the science to me?

[theVOID]

If there is a gay gene, then there is a straight gene.

I can see how the existence of a gay gene implies a straight gene. However I don't know enough about genetics to be able to simply accept one infers the other.

Perhaps someone could explain the science to me?

It would be a single gene or a series of genes that denote one or the other.

But i don't buy that it's entirely genetic, while genes are important there is also the nurture aspect of this argument which is being somewhat ignored.

[Eilonnwy]

If there is a gay gene, then there is a straight gene.

I can see how the existence of a gay gene implies a straight gene. However I don't know enough about genetics to be able to simply accept one infers the other.

Perhaps someone could explain the science to me?

This post goes into detail. I don't want to do another long winded one, repeating what was there. In general, there is no gay gene. None that science has found anyway, and there doesn't have to be. It's fallacious to think there has to be. Not all our traits come from single genes. Some do, and some are a result of other biological reasons. My previous post goes into some of that detail.

But i don't buy that it's entirely genetic, while genes are important there is also the nurture aspect of this argument which is being somewhat ignored.

Specifically what nurture aspect are you referring to? Straight people have gay children and gay children have straight children all the time, so that really isn't an effect. Are you talking maybe family dynamic? I don't buy it.

Most psychoanalytic theories, however, stress the role of parental and family dynamics, not the society as a whole. Behaviorists believe that some sexual and gender identification differences result from roles imposed by family and friends upon children, such as the masculine and the feminine stereotypes. Problems with this are there is no evidence, social or biological, to support that homosexual children were raised differently than were the heterosexual children. Also, with reinforcement of gender identification norms, one would be led to logically deduce that all of the stereotype reinforcement would ensure a heterosexual outcome [7].

Source: http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html

However, we must always remember that no definitive answer has been found for homosexuality, so nurture could be valid, but I won't believe it until there is better evidence to support it. I think biological causes make more sense.

[theVOID]

But i don't buy that it's entirely genetic, while genes are important there is also the nurture aspect of this argument which is being somewhat ignored.

Specifically what nurture aspect are you referring to? Straight people have gay children and gay children have straight children all the time, so that really isn't an effect. Are you talking maybe family dynamic? I don't buy it.

A mixture of things, cultural acceptance, family dynamic as well as genetics.

The argument that Gay people have straight children and vice verse lends more credence to some degree of this effect being nurture as a genetic trait being passed down would lead to multiple generation homosexual families in more instances.

[Violet]

That doesn't change wether a person is gay or not... that changes wether they are openly gay or not. Same with transexuals. Same with a lot of things.

[littlegrimlin1]

The explaination of homosexuality is not completely apparent.

Does a gene determine what foods a person likes? What types of girls a man likes? Hobbies and the such?

If so then, homosexuality may be determined by whatever gene determines what sex they like. My dad is the IT guy (CCNP networking), and so am I. However, I have ventured into programming rather than the linking of computers into networks. My IQ falls short slightly of genius level, and I think my dads might as well. I am somewhat passive, so is my dad, but when I'm pressed passed the line, I can break that, as my dad. We have many simliarities, may they be genetic?

Maybe the tendency to believe in a religion is a type of gene, could be?

[Violet]

Lol, maybe