Ryan attacked for Ayn Rand Influence.

[Brian37]

http://www.americablog.com/2012/08/who-i...ed-vp.html

While it has been pointed out before, now that Romney has chosen Paul Ryan, what makes him evil isn't his eccomic policies, what makes him evil, is the same thing the right accuses Obama of, just look at my godless commie sig below.

This blog is calling Ryan evil because of his influence of Ayan Rand's "militancy".

This pisses me off because this is clearly a left blog rightfully attacking a bat shit insane economic policy, but instead of attacking Ryan on that, it takes a cheap shot at atheists, because we are scapegoats both sides have used.

Let me make this clear, both to the right wing nuts, and to our liberal believing friends. Atheism has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with an individuals economic views. If both the right wing and left who may read this, would spend time here they would know that atheists DO NOT agree on all things all the time.

Beyond Saving I suspect is going to vote for Romney and Ryan(moreso to vote against Obama), and I am voting for Obama, and both of us are atheists.

Ayn Rand was an atheist, and so am I, but while I would have agreed with her rejection of a god, the only thing "militant" about her would be her economic policies. Katherine Hepburn on the other hand, was viewed widely throughout her career as a social liberal, most not knowing that she did not believe in a god.

"Militant" has become a slur both right wing and liberals have aimed at atheists and it is a bullshit tactic. We are part of society, and we are just as unique and individual in the scope of our lives when it comes to our class status, our politics and our likes and dislikes.

Ayn Rand had more in common to me, with the likes of Ann Coulter, than me. The fact that Ayn and I are atheists does not mean we have some stupid loyalty oath to each other, any more than a liberal Baptist has anything in common with a conservative Baptist.

To all reading this, there was a real and specific reason the founders put "NO RELIGIOUS TEST" into the oath of office. If Romney and Ryan came out tomorrow and said "We don't believe in a god", that would not make me vote for them, I would still vote for Obama.

Attacking Ryan and using atheists as a slur and scapegoat is a cheap shot, even when liberals do it. To my liberal friends who believe, please, you do yourselves a disservice to the concept of protecting diversity by using the same fear mongering the right uses, and insult atheists who do support your progressive policies.

[Faith No More]

As far as I can tell, the article says nothing about atheists being bad people. It's pointing out the hypocrisy of a relgious person claiming Ayn Rand as their biggest influence.

[Tiberius]

I read the blog post. I disagree with you. (Brian37)

This blog is calling Ryan evil because of his influence of Ayan Rand's "militancy".

The blog at no point refers to Ryan as "evil". The blog post seems to focus more on the fact that a Republican is citing an atheist (and a rather vocal one at that) as the "reason [Ryan] got involved in public service".

The author of the post later states: "So his favorite philosopher isn't God - but an avowed, militant atheist. That should go over well with the base."

This isn't an attack on atheism. This is an attack on Paul Ryan and the Republican party.

[A Theist]

http://www.americablog.com/2012/08/who-i...ed-vp.html

While it has been pointed out before, now that Romney has chosen Paul Ryan, what makes him evil isn't his eccomic policies, what makes him evil, is the same thing the right accuses Obama of, just look at my godless commie sig below.

This blog is calling Ryan evil because of his influence of Ayan Rand's "militancy".

This pisses me off because this is clearly a left blog rightfully attacking a bat shit insane economic policy, but instead of attacking Ryan on that, it takes a cheap shot at atheists, because we are scapegoats both sides have used.

Let me make this clear, both to the right wing nuts, and to our liberal believing friends. Atheism has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with an individuals economic views. If both the right wing and left who may read this, would spend time here they would know that atheists DO NOT agree on all things all the time.

Beyond Saving I suspect is going to vote for Romney and Ryan(moreso to vote against Obama), and I am voting for Obama, and both of us are atheists.

Ayn Rand was an atheist, and so am I, but while I would have agreed with her rejection of a god, the only thing "militant" about her would be her economic policies. Katherine Hepburn on the other hand, was viewed widely throughout her career as a social liberal, most not knowing that she did not believe in a god.

"Militant" has become a slur both right wing and liberals have aimed at atheists and it is a bullshit tactic. We are part of society, and we are just as unique and individual in the scope of our lives when it comes to our class status, our politics and our likes and dislikes.

Ayn Rand had more in common to me, with the likes of Ann Coulter, than me. The fact that Ayn and I are atheists does not mean we have some stupid loyalty oath to each other, any more than a liberal Baptist has anything in common with a conservative Baptist.

To all reading this, there was a real and specific reason the founders put "NO RELIGIOUS TEST" into the oath of office. If Romney and Ryan came out tomorrow and said "We don't believe in a god", that would not make me vote for them, I would still vote for Obama.

Attacking Ryan and using atheists as a slur and scapegoat is a cheap shot, even when liberals do it. To my liberal friends who believe, please, you do yourselves a disservice to the concept of protecting diversity by using the same fear mongering the right uses, and insult atheists who do support your progressive policies.

Hold on! I'm not one of those people and I know a lot of conservatives who don't feel that way either. I don't put wedges between myself and fellow conservatives who incidentally may be atheists. I don't care that Paul Ryan reads Ayan Rand or that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. That's of no consequence to me. My argument is against the naive, snobbish leftist bubble world, hostile, vicious, double standard hypocrite, radical leftwing socialist militants, (some of which coincindentally, may either be atheists or Christians who attend radical leftwing 'no true scotsman' churches like the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church).

[Tiberius]

^ Secularism.

Doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, just what your political ones are.

[A Theist]

^ Secularism.

Doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, just what your political ones are.

Yes! Thank you! A religious belief or lack thereof is no litmus test for me as far as I'm concerned. Just because a political contender for public office may or may not share my belief in God doesn't mean that we don't share common values.

[cratehorus]

Since Paul Ryan loves everything about Ayn Rand except her atheism, and now loves Thomas Aquinas (a 13th century catholic bishop who apparently can fly) whose only economic accomplishment appears to be arguing that raising prices when demand is high (supply and demand) is a form of theft, and since Ayn Rand rejected every form of government. Does this mean Paul Ryan is admitting he's a fundamentalist theocrat?

“I reject her philosophy,” Ryan told the National Review in April. “It’s an atheist philosophy. It reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview. If somebody is going to try to paste a person’s view on epistemology to me, then give me Thomas Aquinas…Don’t give me Ayn Rand.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79612.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Aquinas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AynRand

[Tiberius]

Yes! Thank you! A religious belief or lack thereof is no litmus test for me as far as I'm concerned. Just because a political contender for public office may or may not share my belief in God doesn't mean that we don't share common values.

I made you this, Good Guy A Theist:

[A Theist]

Yes! Thank you! A religious belief or lack thereof is no litmus test for me as far as I'm concerned. Just because a political contender for public office may or may not share my belief in God doesn't mean that we don't share common values.

I made you this, Good Guy A Theist:

You crack me up dude! Hey. you want the rest of this joint?

[Reforged]

I made you this, Good Guy A Theist:

You crack me up dude! Hey. you want the rest of this joint?

If its lemon haze I believe I will take advantage of your kind offer... by which I mean snatch it out of your hand and run away laughing deliriously.