Jesus - good or evil?

[Ciel_Rouge]

(16th August 2012 05:40)cato123 Wrote:  To the OP:

A dude on YouTube? Don't get me wrong here, I love YouTube. YouTube is a great means of exchanging ideas through video. What I abhor are those, like yourself, that think everything on YouTube is reality.

I do not believe in "YouTube truth" just like I do not believe in "television truth". This particular guy was not only pointing a camera at himself but also referring to the book "Prince of Hatred, Jesus Christ". This book may be looney or not, but what matters to me is the hypothesis that the Christians themselves caused the plagues by their poor hygiene especially when eating which may seem exaggerated but think about things like cholera etc.

(16th August 2012 05:40)cato123 Wrote:  Your last point means that you are not in any manner familiar with Gibbon (no, I am not talking about the species of monkey).

Indeed. This is why I am asking you. The Christians causing the plagues and evil Christ may seem like Roman propaganda, but what if they really spread diseases and Pilatus was actually a good guy sentencing a person who obviously poisoned people's minds?

As previously pointed out, the existence of Homer is not fundamental to any religious movement. But the situation with Jesus somehow reminds me of Big Brother from Orwell's 1984 where a totalitarian "ruler" was also a half-mythical figure and nobody was absolutely sure he existed at all. With so much manipulation and fanaticism of the Catholic clergy I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. To the Christians Jesus is a "ruler" too, sort of like Kim Dzong Un to the Koreans In my country there are people who want to make Jesus the King of Poland and this is sadly not a joke:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6200539.stm

As for the hippie side of Jesus, both the hippies' and his philosophy strongly resembles that of India. What if the Maggi were actually some kind of political emissaries sent to choose an infant (very characterstic of India) who was later supposed to be trained as a political and religious leader (in the desert or maybe on his stay in India). The purpose of this was to create and spread a self-destructive philosophy which would sabotage the empire from within and thus protect India from the rapid expansion of the Romans. Just a thought.

[apophenia]

(16th August 2012 09:11)Ciel_Rouge Wrote:  As for the hippie side of Jesus, both the hippies' and his philosophy strongly resembles that of India. What if the Maggi were actually some kind of political emissaries sent to choose an infant (very characteristic of India) who was later supposed to be trained as a political and religious leader (in the desert or maybe on his stay in India). The purpose of this was to create and spread a self-destructive philosophy which would sabotage the empire from within and thus protect India from the rapid expansion of the Romans. Just a thought.

The Magi issued from a different area than India. There is however, some who suggest that Jesus went to India in his lost years, or that he never died on the cross but went there after his preaching in the Middle East, where there are presumed references to him as Saint Issa (and a tomb).