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Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
(September 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Edit: min, never met a Christian who believed a JW or a Mormon was a Christian

Of course not. They aren't "True Xtians" but when they want to assert of gross number of jesus freaks they scrape up every bit of horseshit they can find ( even catholics!) to add to the total.

However, to quote H. L. Mencken.

Of learned men, the clergy show the lowest development of professional ethics. Any pastor is free to cadge customers from the divines of rival sects, and to denounce the divines themselves as theological quacks.

Catholics are Christians.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
(September 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm)Polaris Wrote: Edit: min, never met a Christian who believed a JW or a Mormon was a Christian

A Mormon orJW believes they are christians. You have decided those you perceive as christians are those that do not accept the Mormons or JWs as christians.

I forget the logical fallacy there, but I am sure another will bring it up.
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#13
RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
Depends on who you ask.

http://www.born-again-christian.info/catholics.htm

http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm

http://dawnmarie4.wordpress.com/2012/01/...christian/

Quote:The Catholic Church presupposes itself to be Christian. Nothing could be further from the truth;
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
(September 16, 2012 at 4:04 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(September 16, 2012 at 1:33 pm)Polaris Wrote: Edit: min, never met a Christian who believed a JW or a Mormon was a Christian

A Mormon orJW believes they are christians. You have decided those you perceive as christians are those that do not accept the Mormons or JWs as christians.

I forget the logical fallacy there, but I am sure another will bring it up.

They do? I don't think either of them even uses the Bible (well JW may use their own Bible where they changed it to fit their views).

Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat deep down and may trick himself into accepting this as a reality....would you call it fallacy for the American people not to believe it?
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
(September 16, 2012 at 4:20 pm)Polaris Wrote: They do? I don't think either of them even uses the Bible (well JW may use their own Bible where they changed it to fit their views).

Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat deep down and may trick himself into accepting this as a reality....would you call it fallacy for the American people not to believe it?

Mormons use the Bible. Smith wasn't satisfied with it so he created an additional testament, but the Bible is still widely used and referenced.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
christian sects


Catholic
Orthodox/Eastern Christian
African indigenous sects (AICs)
Pentecostal
Reformed/Presbyterian/Congregational/United
Anglican
Baptist
Methodist
Lutheran
Jehovah’s Witnesses
Adventist
Latter Day Saints
Apostolic/New Apostolic
Stone-Campbell ("Restoration Movement")
New Thought (Unity, Christian Science, etc.)
Brethren (incl. Plymouth)
Mennonite
Friends (Quakers)
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
Quote:Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat

Romney has managed to make republicunts forget most of his positions from just a few years ago.

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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
(September 16, 2012 at 5:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Bush could announce to the American people he's always been a Democrat

Romney has managed to make republicunts forget most of his positions from just a few years ago.

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It's too bad the nation did not go with Romeycare, but instead went with the more corrupt Obamacare.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
(September 16, 2012 at 9:30 am)Puddleglum Wrote: I hear a lot ,lately, about how US christianity has its own 'fundamentalists' who are 'just as extreme' as the Muslim ones.

This is demonstrably nonsense. The behaviour of your average loony baptist,creationist biblical literalist if observed in the Muslim would would be unbelievably moderate ,liberal even.

Christian loons don't kill their daughters for 'dishonouring' the family, they don't start mass riots and storm the embassies of Muslim countries because of some insult that Muslims have made against Christians

There is simply no equivalence at all.

I think the parallel lies not in the extremist behaviour, but rather the staggering amount ignorance required of them.
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RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
Equivalent?
I think the difference is culture, not religion.
My reason for thinking this is that as an anglo-saxon I come from a culture, where a certain level of rudeness is acceptable, I can tell you what I think about you. As such in our culture there is always an amount of strife. However in other cultures it is seen as a wrong act to upset another. Being to an extent culturally biased, I think that creates a more fragile society which tends to erupt into periods of violence, between times of great harmony.
If you compare England with France, France seems to have more violent riots. So it seems to evolve in fits and starts, whereas England by comparison seems to gradually change in small constant increments. I remember reading somewhere Napoleon could not understand after reading of the vicious debates in parliament why factions of brits would not turn to his support, but would rather go off drinking together, and maintain a constant front against him.
I also see that in the middle east the western support for governments which do not allow free speech in Arabic countries, but seem to think that anything goes in the west could be upsetting, and that is enough to fracture the normal requirement for the moderate path.
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