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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 11:42 am
(September 19, 2012 at 11:31 am)greneknight Wrote: I don't think there is any belief of mine that you don't accept. I don't believe in ANYTHING supernatural. That includes God, angels, heaven, hell, demons, etc.
Then why call yourself 'Christian?'
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 11:44 am
(September 19, 2012 at 11:42 am)TaraJo Wrote: (September 19, 2012 at 11:31 am)greneknight Wrote: I don't think there is any belief of mine that you don't accept. I don't believe in ANYTHING supernatural. That includes God, angels, heaven, hell, demons, etc.
Then why call yourself 'Christian?'
Religion doesn't have to be superstitious. That's my point all along.
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 12:03 pm
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It's pointless ritual without the superstition (well, its pointless ritual anyway, but without the belief you recognise that this is the case).
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 12:11 pm
(September 19, 2012 at 11:44 am)greneknight Wrote: (September 19, 2012 at 11:42 am)TaraJo Wrote: Then why call yourself 'Christian?'
Religion doesn't have to be superstitious. That's my point all along.
Then it's nothing but a waste of time.
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 12:16 pm
Without the supernatural its pointless, but is that the same as superstition?
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 12:17 pm
supernatural = superstition.
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 12:25 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2012 at 12:26 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It would probably be fair to say Gren, that you are "culturally christian" as opposed to "A Christian". Subtle but important distinction to which you may have never been exposed. Unfortunately if this were the case you will have lost all "christian cred" with those who think it means something.
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 2:55 pm
(September 19, 2012 at 11:44 am)greneknight Wrote: (September 19, 2012 at 11:42 am)TaraJo Wrote: Then why call yourself 'Christian?'
Religion doesn't have to be superstitious. That's my point all along.
That's fine and everything, but if you reject the superstitious aspects of the religion, what does the title 'Christian' mean? What is the difference between a Christian, going by your definition, and an atheist?
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Willingness to excuse the church whilst simultaneously claiming credit for the church of this or that..if Gren is the example..lol.
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RE: Something all theists should all keep in mind.
September 19, 2012 at 3:55 pm
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(September 19, 2012 at 9:50 am)greneknight Wrote: ...
Which is why I have been arguing for rational Christianity, a religion that is stripped of its supernatural nonsense. And it's funny that atheists are opposing me like I have done something wrong.
Well, I wouldn't necessarily oppose you, but it seems kinda pointless. It's like striping all the Superman scenes from Superman comics and all you're left with is the life of news reporter named Clark Kent who likes to dash into phone booths for no apparent reason.
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