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Atheist or Anti-Theist
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"Religion is the spawn of evil and the greatest cause of it."
This shows you're anti-theist and anti-rationalist.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
You think belief in fairy tales is "rational?"
(October 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You think belief in fairy tales is "rational?" Such an obvious non sequitur.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
 RE: Atheist or Anti-Theist
October 1, 2012 at 9:39 pm
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2012 at 9:43 pm by will_alltogether.)
(October 1, 2012 at 12:54 pm)Minimalist Wrote: God is irrelevant but religion is dangerous. I couldn't disagree with this more. I think it's incredibly important that whatever we believe ultimately aligns with what is true. If there really is a God (which I think there isn't), it's completely irrational to say that religion is harmful, because that claim implicitly favors "worldly" gratification over eternal salvation. The only way our lives on earth are more significant than our eternal souls is if our eternal souls aren't real. If they are, Christianity (or whatever religion the supposed God arbitrarily chooses to favor) is entirely right in imposing itself upon the world. If we say that even if God exists people shouldn't believe in him, we're encouraging people to abandon the pursuit of what's true in favor of what's favorable. And not even what's favorable in the long run, but only in a worldly sense! A clever theist would have a field day with that argument! Which of course wouldn't prove him right, but it would certainly validate his beliefs in his own mind, thus deepening his delusion. I think it's fundamentally imperative for us as rational atheists to make the claim that God Isn't Real a little more boldly, and make atheism a little more appealing and acceptable, and even less taboo and offensive (people do hesitate in de-converting because of the assumption of moral degradation), because that's the only way we can reasonably expect to diminish the numbers of the religious zealots who are disrupting the quality of the only life we'll ever get. 
Guys could you give me a solid definition of the difference between Anti-theist and Atheist.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies: Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
An atheist just does not believe in god, but they may still believe in the supernatural. They can be rational or irrational.
Anti-theists do not follow religion at all and tend to be irrational and desperate in their disdain for religion.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
I am an atheist.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy  (October 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm)IATIA Wrote: I am an atheist. Hmmm...then would that mean that I'm not an anti-theist? I took it to mean anti-theistic, as in, against theism. I don't mean anti-theist, as in, against theists. I am anti-religion, but I don't hate people just because they are theists. John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion. (October 1, 2012 at 11:04 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Hmmm...then would that mean that I'm not an anti-theist? I took it to mean anti-theistic, as in, against theism. I don't mean anti-theist, as in, against theists. I am anti-religion, but I don't hate people just because they are theists. I would not consider myself "anti-theistic" either. Although I am not for theism in any form, to impose my ideals on them is no different than if they impose their ideals on me. That is why I make a distinction between religion and theism. I can educate them and I can laugh at them, but I do not have to play in their yard. A good example is prayer in the school. It has no place there,but the theists insist that if there is no prayer, then atheism has won. I feel that if we had won, there would be prayer in the school before lunch. (paraphrase) Charlie Anderson [Jimmy Stewart] Wrote:Lord, we cleared this land,
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy RE: Atheist or Anti-Theist
October 2, 2012 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2012 at 11:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Do I tend to be irrational and desperate in my disdain for religion Polaris? I didn't realize, perhaps you could point to where that occurs?
Here, I'll give you an easy one, that's close to home. I think that christianity is an expression of scapegoating, gullibility, and servility. None of these qualities are what I would consider beneficial to an individual or a society. I may be wrong. Irrational? Desperate? Educate me. I think that christianity is completely and utterly useless to anyone except despots and charlatans. It brings nothing to the table, and we would lose nothing by ditching it (except the above scapegoating...gullibility, and servility...at least in those instances).
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