What is heaven?

[frankiej]

Hell has none of that, and breakfast is not served there either.

I'm never up early enough for jentacular things anyway.

[Akincana Krishna dasa]

We are not this body, we are eternal spirit souls. If we uncover our natural, eternal spiritual identity, we can live a life of eternity and unending bliss and knowledge in the spiritual realm.

I'll bet you have nothing to back that up.

Admit it. Some idiot sold you a line of shit.

In this life your body is constantly changing. You have a different body now than you did as an infant. Every cell is replaced in the body about every seven years.

But you are the same person. You are the same conscious entity as you were 7 years ago, although your body has completely changed. If your mom has any pictures of you as a baby or a little kid, you can prove this point to yourself.

"As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." - Bhagavad Gita 2.13

I don't take my advice from an idiot.

You take your advice from human scientists, who can be compared to a frog in a well. Dr. Frog lives in a well of three feet and has no idea how vast the Pacific Ocean is, but who speculates that it may be five feet wide, ten feet wide, etc. comparing it to his well. The point is that comprehending the unlimited knowledge beyond by our limited means is simply a waste of time and energy. All required knowledge is already there in the authorized scriptures, the Vedas. One simply has to take knowledge from the supreme authority, Krishna.

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If we uncover our natural, eternal spiritual identity, we can live a life of eternity and unending bliss and knowledge in the spiritual realm.

Doing what?

Serving the supreme according to our particular taste to do so.

[frankiej]

I'll bet you have nothing to back that up.

Admit it. Some idiot sold you a line of shit.

In this life your body is constantly changing. You have a different body now than you did as an infant. Every cell is replaced in the body about every seven years.

But you are the same person. You are the same conscious entity as you were 7 years ago, although your body has completely changed. If your mom has any pictures of you as a baby or a little kid, you can prove this point to yourself.

"As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change." - Bhagavad Gita 2.13

I don't take my advice from an idiot.

You take your advice from human scientists, who can be compared to a frog in a well. Dr. Frog lives in a well of three feet and has no idea how vast the Pacific Ocean is, but who speculates that it may be five feet wide, ten feet wide, etc. comparing it to his well. The point is that comprehending the unlimited knowledge beyond by our limited means is simply a waste of time and energy. All required knowledge is already there in the authorized scriptures, the Vedas. One simply has to take knowledge from the supreme authority, Krishna.

Does the soul become damaged if your brain is injured? Brain damage can definitely change who someone is. You are physically the same person, but mentally, it can alter someone greatly. Everything to do with a person's personality comes down to the brain.

[pocaracas]

All required knowledge is already there in the authorized scriptures, the Vedas. One simply has to take knowledge from the supreme authority, Krishna.

So, who wrote that scripture?
How did they come about that knowledge in order to write about it?

[Welsh cake]

Heaven in all mythologies represents people's wants and desires.

Christians want wealth and their own mansions...
Muslims want virgins...
Hindus want complicated shit that makes no sense...

The core of that fantasy, is instinctive self-preservation, the desire to outlive death.


When we deny our childish fantasies, and tame our wild imaginations, reality sets in:
All human beings, will without exception, eventually die. All humans return to "mu", oblivion, nothingness. All humans, regardless of their actions/inactions during life, simply cease to exist upon dying, and are all equal in death.

Life is chaos, ever changing fact, where there are always winners and losers, pain and pleasure. Oblivion however, as the default state, is fact, it is an eternal timeless peace, greater than any human concept of an afterlife.

When you embrace nothingness, reality makes no sense, time loses meaning, you are freed of the weight of your failures and successes, the chains of the laws of physics, the shackles of your identity, the burning agony of knowledge, and the chilling fear of doubt from lack of said knowledge, the burden of your genetics that predetermine who you are, you are removed of your responsibility to others, you forever escape your accountability to higher authorities, you throw off your natural pressures to survive and strive.

Oblivion as nothing, is true freedom, from everything.

Therefore, it stands to reason, that oblivion is true paradise.

[Godscreated]

Hell has none of that, and breakfast is not served there either.

I'm never up early enough for jentacular things anyway.

No beds and no sleep either.

[frankiej]

I want to know how you know this...

[Godscreated]

I want to know how you know this...

I study scriptures, there will be no rest, no night, no day, just eternal darkness.

[frankiej]

Well, that is good, I prefer the darkness anyway.

[Mystic]

All required knowledge is already there in the authorized scriptures, the Vedas. One simply has to take knowledge from the supreme authority, Krishna.

How do you know the Vedas are authorized scriptures? How do you know Krishna exists and how do you recognize what is truly from him?

I'm not asking to argue, just want to know your perspective.