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hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 20, 2012 at 3:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: and sometimes.."the public enemy" is a boogeyman.........

Most of the time, it is.
However it is only a poor nation which needs a boogeyman to feel more like a nation.
Quote:Really, so I happen to be a lie? Tell me what culture am I? I happen to be half hispanic, half native american, 100% american. I don't speak spanish I know very little so I am not seen to be mexican to anyone of my color. I speak english pretty well and in most cases more so than Caucasians but to them I'm just a mexican. I have absolutely no connections with my native american ancestory as the tribe is almost wiped out of existance. What is my culture? Is it from my hispanic heritage which can probably be observed or it is from living here in america? Why do you see african americans wearing skinny jeans and caucasian americans wearing do rags some some people wearing both? Why are fanatical neo nazis afriad of colored people corrupting their youth with different ideologies and beliefs? If you say diversity is a lie, then you yourself are lying to only you.
Being a mongrel does not make you culturally diverse, friend.
At the end, you conform to the culture of the country that you live and were born in.
Cultural diversity, or "Multi-Kulti" as it's called in Euro circles, was a missgeschicktes attempt on having the immigrating cultures flourish besides the native ones, but obviously, this has kept immigrants from integrating and eventually being absorbed by the country for too long.
Multiculturalism and cultural diversity is a lie. Every culture wishes to rule over the other, either by completely absorbing it, or by destroying it.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 21, 2012 at 5:42 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Most of the time, it is.
However it is only a poor nation which needs a boogeyman to feel more like a nation.
Exactly.........................................
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 21, 2012 at 12:34 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: I have been warning Christians for decades that the separation of church and state protects religion therefore it would be stupid to try to break it down. They always found a way to ignore me. Now that Christianity has some competition they have their panties in a wad. Oddly they still want a Christian theocracy but also they want to squelch their competition. They don't understand how the system works.

I hear the fear tactics. They believe that they must turn the U.S. back to god or god will judge us (fear, fear, fear, fear). The threat is looming! God's patience will run out! Ugh!

God can go fuck himself.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 21, 2012 at 12:34 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: I hear the fear tactics. They believe that they must turn the U.S. back to god or god will judge us (fear, fear, fear, fear). The threat is looming! God's patience will run out! Ugh!

Patience? What do you call the fall, you call that patience? Wink
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(October 20, 2012 at 4:31 pm)JohnDG Wrote: They simply do not want their children to be culturally diverse which would happen if islamic children and christian children were learning to live and work together. Because their ideologies would eventually mix and become something new not quite christian or muslim.

Cultural diversity is a lie, friend. Every culture tries to lord over others. Diversity cannot survive.
Evolution would not occure without diversity, IN ALL biological life, plants, incects even bacteria.

Societal tribalism is no different an alpha male than any other species. But to say cooperation and overlap never exist is absurd. Both are part of evolution.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 21, 2012 at 7:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(October 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Cultural diversity is a lie, friend. Every culture tries to lord over others. Diversity cannot survive.
Evolution would not occure without diversity, IN ALL biological life, plants, incects even bacteria.

Societal tribalism is no different an alpha male than any other species. But to say cooperation and overlap never exist is absurd. Both are part of evolution.

I don't think you understood me properly. I'm talking about politics, you're talking about something else. I'm saying that countries ultimately aim to bring their citizens under a single identity, while you come here talking about biology and evolution.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 22, 2012 at 11:17 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(October 21, 2012 at 7:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Evolution would not occure without diversity, IN ALL biological life, plants, incects even bacteria.

Societal tribalism is no different an alpha male than any other species. But to say cooperation and overlap never exist is absurd. Both are part of evolution.

I don't think you understood me properly. I'm talking about politics, you're talking about something else. I'm saying that countries ultimately aim to bring their citizens under a single identity, while you come here talking about biology and evolution.
I did not miss your point. read what I said, EVOLUTION is the cause of why countries try to aim their citizens into a single identity. Evolution produces GROUPS because of the safty in numbers it has the potential to provide.

I am saying while that is a dominate force, it also produces cooperation. If it always saught facism, the west would not be secular in it's protection of dissent.

Political and religious labels are nothing but artifical memes we slap on evolution to either excuse dominance or in seeking cooperation. Both are part of evoltion otherwise we wouldn't have different groups. Thats what evolution has always done.

Evolution would not occure without diversity. Sea life never would have left the ocean, and humans never would have left the caves. Our boarders and politics from the nomadic pre written history to our current labels are a result of change, not stagnation. That is because evolution always changes so why would boarders be different?

You are stuck on lables and our current labels were not arround 500,000 years ago and will not be arround 500,000 years from now. But what has not changed is that we have always stemmed from the same evolution.

So it is not either or. Yes, nationalism exists, religiousity exists, political clubs exist and all of them seek dominance, BUT THAT IS ONE ASPECT of evolution, but it is not the only aspect.

These same "national clubs" can and do seek help from other like minded nations, and they do seek to protect dissent, even if other nations dont.

You are speaking a different langauge. "Diversity" you are treating like a social issue. I am saying diversity in evolution is both good and bad. Cancer would not exist if there were no diversity in evolution. Political and religious labels are merely a social label we slap on evolution, but it is still diverse. One nation protects freedom and dissent and seeks cooperation with other like minded nations, and other fascist states squash dissent while seeking cooperation from other fascist states.

Evolution produces both good and bad and poltics is merely the comic book label we use to justify BOTH the good and the bad humans do. That is what I mean by diversty.

Saying "Tornados" exist and so does snow" does not mean I want a tornado to affect me, but neither would I want an avalanche to affect me even if I like snow. But both are still natural.

I think the wests secular attitudes is more in lines of the positive side of evolution. Fascism is the relfection of the selfish aspect of evolution. Both can work and both can fail, I am saying that both exist like it or not. That is what I mean by diversity.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
(October 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:
(October 20, 2012 at 4:31 pm)JohnDG Wrote: They simply do not want their children to be culturally diverse which would happen if islamic children and christian children were learning to live and work together. Because their ideologies would eventually mix and become something new not quite christian or muslim.

Cultural diversity is a lie, friend. Every culture tries to lord over others. Diversity cannot survive.

Diversity IS our culture.

(October 21, 2012 at 5:42 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Cultural diversity, or "Multi-Kulti" as it's called in Euro circles, was a missgeschicktes attempt on having the immigrating cultures flourish besides the native ones, but obviously, this has kept immigrants from integrating and eventually being absorbed by the country for too long.
Multiculturalism and cultural diversity is a lie. Every culture wishes to rule over the other, either by completely absorbing it, or by destroying it.

America has a different way. We have a number of cultures that bleed into each other. Sure in three generations immigrants are much like the American majority, but it's a two-way street: by the time they're 'integrated' in sufficient numbers they will have influenced the larger culture. So Spanish is considered a useful language to know, and in many places we post signs in English and Spanish. So 'urbanisms' of this decade are common slang in the next. So we become accepting of minorities that once were openly and commonly despised. The 'dominant' culture doesn't just assert, it absorbs.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
I think Christians are so used to having their way that when any other belief system has anything good happen to them, they lose their shit. To them, their way is the norm. So anything that goes against the norm is bad. It pretty much works like high school does.
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RE: hypocritical Christians complaining about islamic infiltration of the school system
Maybe they're just afraid they will suicide bomb their schools?
Live every day as if already dead, that way you're not disappointed when you are. Big Grin
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