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Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Tobie Wrote: And what is the evidence muhammad is of the best morals etc?

Response: The Qur'an and sunnah.

Yet another who can't tell the difference between the claim and evidence.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 6:35 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Pingu: Aaaand you're done. The persecution card is the last desperate gamble of one who holds no winning hand and knows it.

Response: Rather, the denial of persecution is the result of one who's hand has been trumped repeatedly and knows it.

Yeah, right. Because in atheist world muslims are hanged and in Iran, Saoudi Arabia and other retarded cultures atheists are very much respected.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Rather, the denial of persecution is the result of one who's hand has been trumped repeatedly and knows it.

Splink: Echoing Ramone's sentiment, the saddest part of this is you probably believe it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: The funniest of all is that you waste your life devoting to a fictional pedophile, for nothing. HAHAHAHA. How sad.

Response: Only in the eyes of the delusional. Thanks for the clarification.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Tobie Wrote: I'm not the one claiming that a 9 year old has existed that was as mature in every way as a normal adult. You're the one making this incredulous claim, therefore it is down to you to find any backing for it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to support your argument.

Response: Yet you are the one questioning its existence with no logical reasoning. Therefore it's down to you to provide rational logic to substantiate your doubt. I'm not going to waste my time trying to support your argument.


(December 9, 2012 at 6:29 pm)Tobie Wrote: And what is the evidence muhammad is of the best morals etc?

Response: The Qur'an and sunnah.

So because I question your unsubstantiated claims and ask that you provide proof it is me that is being illogical? Have you not heard of a thing called Russell's teapot? Look it up.

As for the Qur'an and sunnah being proof of anything, how are we to know that the claims they contain are the truth?
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Splink: Echoing Ramone's sentiment, the saddest part of this is you probably believe it.

Response: From you, we would expect such sentiment.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:42 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: The funniest of all is that you waste your life devoting to a fictional pedophile, for nothing. HAHAHAHA. How sad.

Response: Only in the eyes of the delusional. Thanks for the clarification.

Your ticket out of here
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:43 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: From you, we would expect such sentiment.

Nipple: Tu quoque all you have left? Whatever would your Muhammad say?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
Seems all spectators would rather hear evidence that islam is true, after failing to prove the negativity of Muhammad is true. So we move on.

The evidence that the Qur'an is the true word of Allah is in the following:

"Will they not then meditate upon the Qur'an? Had it been from anyone other than Allah they would surely have found therein much discrepancy."

Here we have test that demonstrates that there is no error in the Qur'an, showing the truthful nature of the Qur'an. If a person disagrees, then the individual can take up the challenge to find a discrepancy in the Qur’an and when the person discovers that there is no discrepancy, then the only logical conclusion that can be derived is that whomever the author of the Qur’an is, the individual is a truth teller and righteous because all of the content in the Qur’an is without error, indecency, and immorality. The question still remains as to who is the author? The Qur’an answers this question with the following test. The Qur’an states:

"And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to our servant, then produce a chapter like it, and call upon your helpers beside Allah if you are truthful."

Here we have a test which proves that it is not humanly possible to produce a chapter like the Qur'an and proves so by challenging all of those who doubt so to prove so by trying to produce a chapter like the Qur'an. For when trying to produce a chapter like the Qur'an, the skeptic will learn first-hand that such a thing is humanly impossible to do.

But before the a skeptic develops the common response of simply producing something in Arabic or claiming that the challenge is not valid because not being able to produce a play like Shakespeare does not mean that the play is from God so the same analogy applies to the Qur'an, let me further elaborate. The Qur'an, like any scripture, is inspiration. And like any scripture, its intent is to inspire people to follow its teaching. Thus the challenge is to produce something that is as inspirational as the Qur'an, for it is the inspiration of the Qur'an that is miraculous. And what is that miracle? The miracle is within the following:

"It is humanly impossible for a person/s to inspire enough people to follow him/her to conquer a nation by using humanmande speech/literature that goes against the likes and beliefs of those people."

This is the miracle of Muhammad. For the challenge proves that it is humanly impossible to use any speech or literature that goes against the majority and is invented by a person/s, to inspire enough followers amongst them to conquer a nation. The skeptic still disagrees? Then take the challenge and prove differently. Try using a speech or literature that does not agree with the likes of a majority of people that is an invention by a person/s. Then use that very same speech to inspire them to conquer a nation and see what happens. The challenge can even be simplified by asking a skeptic to just conquer the street that he or she lives on and see what happens. Yet the person will fail and fail miserably. No person will come close to achieving the challenge. Any individual, when taking the challenge, will have a first-hand eyewitness account from experience and observation that such an act is humanly impossible and that is when the person will learn the miracle of Muhammad. Why? The reason is because Muhammad used the Qur'an to inspire enough followers to conquer a nation in the same fashion. So if it is humanly impossible to use speech or literature that goes against the likes of the masses to inspire them to follow a person/s and conquer a nation, yet Muhammad used the Qur'an to do just that, then what does that mean? That means that the Qur'an that Muhammad used is not the invention of any human but must come from a higher power and authority greater than humans, and that is Allah. Do the skeptics still disagree? Then take the challenge and prove differently. When the challengers fail, because they will, this will help to demonstrate that the Qur’an is of divine origin as proven by the scientific method itself because it provides a hands-on eyewitness account that producing something like the Qur’an is humanly impossible. If you read this, and you yourself disagrees, then take the challenge and prove differently.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 6:42 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Dee Dee Ramone Wrote: The funniest of all is that you waste your life devoting to a fictional pedophile, for nothing. HAHAHAHA. How sad.

Response: Only in the eyes of the delusional. Thanks for the clarification.

Sorry but you are the delusional one, I almost pity Islam and it was once a scientific and peaceful (I use the term loosely), then it got hijacked by nutters like you and look at it now, is a pathetic illiterate shadow of it's former self. You so trapped by the delusions forced into your head when you were young it is sad. And it's a pity you will never know true reality. I almost feel sorry, almost.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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